Reply to: Snow and Climate Change (Global "Warming")

[NotAllThere]

If the earth is warming up, then there will be more energy in the atmosphere, and weather will get more unpredictable. This may result in more severe winters than expected or much milder winters than expected.

What's stupid is that the GW mob jump on one year's bad ski season as evidence of global warming. Even if they're right, one year's data means nothing. If, over a ten year period, ski seasons have been gradually getting shorter and higher, then, maybe, that can be used as evidence.

A nuclear winter would be pointless. I want to ski when it's sunny. Why can't we have decent snowfalls in summer? Bring back snowball earth.

[Mailman]

http://things.auditblogs.com/2007/11...-propaganda-1/

ATW, explain your way out of this one?

Mailman

[The Master]

If the weather was predictable then that Fish guy wouldnt have got it so wrong 20 years ago!

Or is the reason he got that so wrong because of climate change back then?

Or as he pointed out on the retrospective the other day, they always cut the clip off just after he says "I'd just like to reassure Mrs B Smegma that there is no hurricane on the way..." [which there wasn't] "...but it is going to be extremely stormy in the south-east tonight".

[The Master]

The key here is that "abundance", ie lots more than in normal times - climate is being screwed up, in one year too hot, in another too cold - if things go this way there might be 30 years too hot no snow, and 5 years with lots of snow.

Hang on a mo, if one year it is too cold and the next it is too hot, then surely on the average everything is fine?

Nothing to worry about then!

[DimPrawn]

Yes before climate change the weather was always sunny and exactly 21 deg C across the whole globe.

We never had floods, droughts, storms, tidal surges, rain, heat, snow, tornados, hurricanes back then.

[Mailman]

I did.

Dim is acting dumb today. Global Warming already leads to harsher less predictable weather, it is silly to say that just because there is now more snow than last year then there is no global warming - the point is that already climate is less predictable and if nothing is done matters will be worse.

You toss...its the weather...weather by its very nature is fairly unpredictable!
If the weather was predictable then that Fish guy wouldnt have got it so wrong 20 years ago!

Or is the reason he got that so wrong because of climate change back then?

Mailman

[Mailman]

I can only base my opinions on climate change based on personal recordings going back to 2003.

Last year the snow arrived both earlier and finished later than the great snow dumps of 2005 and 2004 here in London.

Climate change...its just another name for "tax em up the arse!"

Mailman

[DimPrawn]

No you didn't.

It was the partially light-hearted point that last year's lack of snow was singularly used by some as proof of global warming, so begging the question, why cannot this year's abundance of snow be singularly used to prove the opposite?

Go to top of the class.

[Addanc]

Try this spoon fed version.

[AtW]

I give up...

[wendigo100]

I give up...

[AtW]

why cannot this year's abundance of snow be singularly used to prove the opposite?

The key here is that "abundance", ie lots more than in normal times - climate is being screwed up, in one year too hot, in another too cold - if things go this way there might be 30 years too hot no snow, and 5 years with lots of snow.

[wendigo100]

I did.

Dim is acting dumb today. Global Warming already leads to harsher less predictable weather, it is silly to say that just because there is now more snow than last year then there is no global warming - the point is that already climate is less predictable and if nothing is done matters will be worse.

So what's good will it be to have good snow once a decade? The eco-system in Alps will be screwed up and every company there will go bust waiting for once in a decade snow.

No you didn't.

It was the partially light-hearted point that last year's lack of snow was singularly used by some as proof of global warming, so begging the question, why cannot this year's abundance of snow be singularly used to prove the opposite?

[DimPrawn]

I did.

Dim is acting dumb today. Global Warming already leads to harsher less predictable weather, it is silly to say that just because there is now more snow than last year then there is no global warming - the point is that already climate is less predictable and if nothing is done matters will be worse.

So what's good will it be to have good snow once a decade? The eco-system in Alps will be screwed up and every company there will go bust waiting for once in a decade snow.

Another drone follows the hype....

[AtW]

I'm not sure you've grasped the point there, Alexei...

I did.

Dim is acting dumb today. Global Warming already leads to harsher less predictable weather, it is silly to say that just because there is now more snow than last year then there is no global warming - the point is that already climate is less predictable and if nothing is done matters will be worse.

So what's good will it be to have good snow once a decade? The eco-system in Alps will be screwed up and every company there will go bust waiting for once in a decade snow.