Reply to: EU needs 20 million immigrants from outside

[DimPrawn]

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | EU 'Blue Card' to target skilled

The European Commission is set to unveil a Blue Card for skilled immigrants, based on the US Green Card.
The card would allow suitably qualified people and their families to live and work within the EU.

The EU says it needs 20 million skilled immigrants over the next 20 years, and is very short of expertise in engineering and computer technology.

Got to be worth an Oh Dear?

Indeed old friend. Oh Dear™

[d000hg]

If the skills are so scarce why are the rates currently so low

Low is somewhat a relative term. And surely it's at least partly that they were 'artificially' high during the boom years. £800/day is silly money for anything but a very niche skillset.

[MrMark]

Plenty of hands to bail out the land when the sea levels rise!

[DodgyAgent]

20% x 20,000,000 x £30,000 hmmmmmm

Anyone know where I can buy a cheap boat with lots of space and some trucks?

[TheFaQQer]

Know a good English Grammer book?

Wasn't taught that thanks to the NUT and there are only so many ways you can stop a child being using bad grammer without being done for child abuse.

No. I'm sure that there are some good grammar books out there, though.

Try "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynn Truss. Or even "Basic English Revisited", although that's an American book it is right in some places.

[SueEllen]

mother (since there's no smilie for poor punctuation and capitalization)

friends (no need for the apostrophe)

Know a good English Grammer book?

Wasn't taught that thanks to the NUT and there are only so many ways you can stop a child being using bad grammer without being done for child abuse.

[KathyWoolfe]

Not so long ago I remember that Australia had introduced an incentive for Brits to emigrate there due to a "skills shortage".

I think that really skilled people are being kidnapped and sent into space to colonise a new planet that the general public don't know about.

[TheFaQQer]

That's because your parenets or parents had an interest in their child's education.

Watched Dispatches on Monday and there was a Mother on it whose teenage son couldn't read. Her explanation was that she didn't have time to help him because she was a working single mother. It's strange how all my family and a lot of my friends' can read.

mother (since there's no smilie for poor punctuation and capitalization)

friends (no need for the apostrophe)

[SueEllen]

Dunce! What if the teacher's a numpty tw@t who lets the class run riot, etc.? Happened to my sister: she had a turd-tastic teacher in infant school. Our brother (her twin) was in the same school, in a different class with a decent teacher. My sister and her classmates were noticeably weaker in the three Rs than my brother and his classmates. Luckily, my parenets realized what was happening (I think they'd been thinking that my sister was a bit thick) when they went along to the Parents' Evening and found that other parents had a similar tale to tell. Teacher disappeared shortly after. My sister then went from barely able to read to competent in about 6 months. That's why testing the tots is a great idea... helps identify crap teachers, of which there are more than enough.

That's because your parenets or parents had an interest in their child's education.

Watched Dispatches on Monday and there was a Mother on it whose teenage son couldn't read. Her explanation was that she didn't have time to help him because she was a working single mother. It's strange how all my family and a lot of my friends' can read.

[oracleslave]

Luckily, my parenets

[tay]

EU needs 20 million immigrants from outside

As opposed to 20 million immigrants from inside?

[DBA_bloke]

Apparently 1 in 5 people in Newcastle have problems with basic writing and arithmetic. Now, can this be blamed on schools, however crap? Surely if you want to learn to read, write and count you will?

Dunce! What if the teacher's a numpty tw@t who lets the class run riot, etc.? Happened to my sister: she had a turd-tastic teacher in infant school. Our brother (her twin) was in the same school, in a different class with a decent teacher. My sister and her classmates were noticeably weaker in the three Rs than my brother and his classmates. Luckily, my parenets realized what was happening (I think they'd been thinking that my sister was a bit thick) when they went along to the Parents' Evening and found that other parents had a similar tale to tell. Teacher disappeared shortly after. My sister then went from barely able to read to competent in about 6 months. That's why testing the tots is a great idea... helps identify crap teachers, of which there are more than enough.

[sasguru]

Apparently 1 in 5 people in Newcastle have problems with basic writing and arithmetic. Now, can this be blamed on schools, however crap? Surely if you want to learn to read, write and count you will?

[Spacecadet]

Imagine having to pay an imigrant 30K to do a job a Geordie wont do for 13.

Won't or can't?

Industry has been complaining of crap school leavers in this country for years.

[The Lone Gunman]

Saw the detail of this on the news last night.
The blue card scheme looks good and sort of fits in with most Euro zone countries schemes anyway.

Applicant will have to have a job offer and will have to be earning 3 times minimum wage (30K UK equivelant news said).

As this will defeat what the corporates want in the UK (cheaper labour) we are proposing to opt out of the scheme. Imagine having to pay an imigrant 30K to do a job a Geordie wont do for 13.