Reply to: Britain In The 21st Century

[Causus Deli]

if there were checks to ensure immigrants were highly skilled individuals with a reasonable set of moral standards i wouldn't care. I just cant bear to see the place being destroyed like this

I concur.

[mrdonuts]

do you have a problem with my statement??

[Clippy]

if there were checks to ensure immigrants were highly skilled individuals with a reasonable set of moral standards i wouldn't care. I just cant bear to see the place being destroyed like this

CD, how many ID's have you got?

I'm losing track.

[mrdonuts]

if there were checks to ensure immigrants were highly skilled individuals with a reasonable set of moral standards i wouldn't care. I just cant bear to see the place being destroyed like this

[Old Greg]

Wow that's power, call the cops!

You've forgotten yourself. We thankfully still live in a free society where you can express yourself, vile though you are. The gagging and censorship that you have called for is not in place. So you'll have to wait until you and your chums are in charge before calling the cops.

[Causus Deli]

Hi CD

How much of your dole money have you got left?

Enough to see you through the weekend I hope.

Hello sweety, wanna buy a girl a drink?

[Causus Deli]

No invention. We've seen your lies and national socialism before. When a national socialist tries to get involved, that for me is the main issue. The threat you present is worse than anything you could describe in our current society.

Wow that's power, call the cops!

[Old Greg]

Yeah, why answer a post when you can invent a boogeyman to rant about? Saves dealing with real issues I suppose. “It is never safe to laugh at Dr. Malthus; he always has the last laugh”

No invention. We've seen your lies and national socialism before. When a national socialist tries to get involved, that for me is the main issue. The threat you present is worse than anything you could describe in our current society.

[Clippy]

Hi CD

How much of your dole money have you got left?

Enough to see you through the weekend I hope.

[Causus Deli]

Yeah, why answer a post when you can invent a boogeyman to rant about? Saves dealing with real issues I suppose. “It is never safe to laugh at Dr. Malthus; he always has the last laugh”

[Old Greg]

Of course the other problem, is national socialist like you trying to exploit problems in society to further your own political ends. You have already revealed yourself for what you are so your words must be seen in the context of your position.

Immigrants? Great opportunity. Invent some lies about population projections to get people thinking along racial lines and blaming immigrants for society's problems. That should suit you nicely.

Underclass? Like you give a damn about them or anyone else. Just another source of people you can try to fool to join your great racial crusade.

There are real problems in every society (always have been), but we would do well to recognise you and your sort for your real agenda which will drive us down from where we are now into barbaric dictatorship.

EDIT: you may disagree politically but please keep comments acceptable. Thanks.
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[Causus Deli]

I lived in Belgium for several years, I liked it and felt at home but as time went on there were simple little things that I missed, the things that you can’t quite put your finger on. When we returned it did indeed feel like home again. That was back in the early 90’s, but 15 years on I’m not so sure home is as I know it anymore. We were in CH in the early 00’s, that was much different yet I didn’t miss home so much as home was not as I thought of it, since back it has become more a foreign land that I don’t like very much about. The indigenous people running things don’t give a damn about the common man and the younger generation have strange ideas about allegiances. Ones allegiances as far as I’m concerned are to ones family and then people with common beliefs and values. The discarding of this generation of kids is the biggest atrocity that the government have presided over, then for those who have done OK to blame those forgotten people and hail the ‘immigrant saviours’ is beyond belief. Of course ethnic groups will extol the virtues of their brethren and use whatever means they have of increasing their minority numbers to create an artificial home environment that they are happy to live with. Another lot are the greedy parasites (legal, traffickers, interpreters, support agencies) who feed off any situation and care little for our common people simply feathering their own nests. I can get on with the people I mix with because I’m lucky to be able to mix with quality people. I’m able to mix with older indigenous people of all classes/races because we have a common interest in our country and the good things that are being English and English life. I chatted to two Sikh guys down the pub some weeks ago and we exchanged numbers, we had far more in common than the pseudo-educated present generation and I have. They and the government are the problem here, stifling people so they cannot tell their understandable concerns about the overwhelming of our land.

[richard-af]

January 3, 2007
Immigration Benefit 'Equivalent to a Mars bar a Month'

New figures out today reveal that, on the Government's own figures, the benefit to each member of the native population of the UK from immigration is worth about 4p a week - or less than the equivalent of a small Mars bar a month...

English History X, would you please stop. We all get it: you read a broadsheet. Zzzzzzzz...

[English History X]

Mars Bars for all in the 21st Century

January 3, 2007
Immigration Benefit 'Equivalent to a Mars bar a Month'

New figures out today reveal that, on the Government's own figures, the benefit to each member of the native population of the UK from immigration is worth about 4p a week - or less than the equivalent of a small Mars bar a month.

In an analysis of a series of reports on the economic impact of immigration on the UK think-tank Migrationwatch has found that overall the much vaunted contribution of immigrants to the economy is very slight indeed - a finding that coincides with the results of major studies around the world. (see report)

'The Government seek to present the record immigration levels as being nothing but good news for the host community as a means of deflecting attention from some of the many problems it is causing and to neutralise the deep public disquiet they know is out there,' said Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch. 'Of course many immigrants make a useful contribution to the economy but taken in total the economic benefit is at best marginal.

'The main beneficiaries are the immigrants themselves who are able to send home about £10 million a day, not the host nation,' he said.

Sir Andrew said that while the supporters of mass immigration were adept at publicising the 'benefits,' they studiously avoided the many downsides that result, such as the pressure on an already overburdened infrastructure, housing, health and schools as well as an increasing impact on employment and added strains on community cohesion.

The analysis shows that in the short term any benefit to the host population will depend on the distribution of income (and therefore Tax). For example, if immigrants pay more in tax than they receive in benefits, the host population will be better off.

A number of attempts have been made to measure this fiscal effect. The government's first effort which showed a net benefit of £2.5bn was based on a year in which the budget was in surplus so everybody was making a positive fiscal contribution. This study was superseded by an IPPR study which also showed a positive contribution. However the result was distorted by the inclusion of all children of mixed households (one parent an immigrant, the other not) in the host community. Correcting for this by splitting the cost of these children 50/50 produced a small negative outcome

Migrationwatch also reviewed the National Institute Economic Review No 198, the government's own calculations, an ITEM club report plus major studies in America, Canada and Holland.

'Although they used different methodologies they all point in the same direction - namely, that the benefit of large scale immigration in terms of GDP per head is minimal. Indeed, all major studies of large-scale immigration involving mixed levels of skills, such as we have in the U. K., find that its net effect is very small in comparison to GDP. If we are to have the mature and thorough debate that Ministers have been calling for let us start off with an honest and realistic assessment of the costs and benefits of the highest levels of immigration in our history,' said Sir Andrew.

[xoggoth]

Britain has really gone downhill in recent years. Fewer and fewer people are leaving out little saucers of jam for wasps. I blame the governemnt.