Reply to: If there was a general election tomorrow...

[wendigo100]

We don't have Labour candidates around my way.

[Rantor]

Are we now funding homosexuality?

Is contracting not paying enough for you?

[zathras]

Round my area they would elect a monkey if it had a Red Rosette on. The upshot of which it is totally pointless voting Tory since they have no chance.

For that reason I tend to vote Liberal, not because I support them, but because it is the best way of damaging/getting rid of the Labour.

Our Labour MP's have been particularly hopeless. The original one felt it was his job to sell Labour Policy to me (No you idiot it is your job to bring my concerns to the government of the day). When he retired he was replaced by some stupid bint who has only voted against the government a couple of times. (PS to illustrate how stupid she voted for the MSC provisions in the Budget and she used to be a freelancer!)

[Troll]

homosexuality was a sin, and that all funding should be cut

Are we now funding homosexuality?

[TheFaQQer]

A truely sad state of affairs. Where was it?

Burnley - in one of the rich wards, hence no alternative candidates.

[TheFaQQer]

He didn't do his research well, then. Nice quote from the party leader, pasted from wikipedia:

Griffin has publicly expressed his distaste for homosexuality. After David Copeland's 1999 bombing of the Admiral Duncan gay pub in Soho, London, Griffin wrote: "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive."

Still, the funny thing is that their homophobia may suggest a certain repressed longing for male company if you know what I mean.

I don't think the candidate explicitly said that they would cut all funding to homosexual groups. He knew what he was voting for, which made the situation even more depressing - Labour and Lib Dem would never get voted in there, so they didn't run.

[Old Greg]

A gay friend of mine had a choice in a local election - vote for the Tory who said that homosexuality was a sin, and that all funding should be cut; or vote for the BNP who didn't quite go that far (maybe they couldn't spell the long words??).

No other candidates stood in the ward, so sadly he had to vote BNP instead.

He didn't do his research well, then. Nice quote from the party leader, pasted from wikipedia:

Griffin has publicly expressed his distaste for homosexuality. After David Copeland's 1999 bombing of the Admiral Duncan gay pub in Soho, London, Griffin wrote: "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive."

Still, the funny thing is that their homophobia may suggest a certain repressed longing for male company if you know what I mean.

[Pondlife]

A gay friend of mine had a choice in a local election - vote for the Tory who said that homosexuality was a sin, and that all funding should be cut; or vote for the BNP who didn't quite go that far (maybe they couldn't spell the long words??).

No other candidates stood in the ward, so sadly he had to vote BNP instead.

A truely sad state of affairs. Where was it?

[TheFaQQer]

and htf do we have ten votes for the BNP? Come on, show yourselves.

A gay friend of mine had a choice in a local election - vote for the Tory who said that homosexuality was a sin, and that all funding should be cut; or vote for the BNP who didn't quite go that far (maybe they couldn't spell the long words??).

No other candidates stood in the ward, so sadly he had to vote BNP instead.

[TheFaQQer]

I guess the winners were fairly predictable... I was surprised at the BNP votes too but then I saw this earlier poll: Linky Also, there's often a surge in votes for the far right in the wake of a terror attack (albeit a botched one)

Having read a lot of the threads on CUK, I'm not at all surprised.

[Old Greg]

I understand that your going to get a higher turn out for the Tories on here than on publicsectorworker.com. It was the BNP Vs UKIP I was questioning.

Wanting to make/keep more money doesn't make you racist.

One historical analysis of where fascist parties take their grassroots support from would identify these key groups (assume non-Jewish in the '30s and white today):

The unemployed (in a time of high unemployment)
The self-employed (e.g. shopkeepers, independent craftsmen in the 1930s, Contractors today)
Various groups of non-unionised (mostly middle class) employees: clerks, middle managers, policemen

What these groups have in common is:

They are not organised in Trade Unions, so fascist parties offer them organisation, a sense of pride and belonging etc.
They are vulnerable to (and in the '30s were victims of) economic slump: decrease in house prices, hyperinflation wiping out savings (or interest rates increasing mortgage payments), unemployment. They will therefore grab hold of strong leadership (and buy into scapegoating) in a crisis.

Now this isn't the 1930s. We're not in a slump and the social set up of society has changed massively - 2 examples are the decline of trade unionism and social mobility. But I think it's worth bearing in mind when asking why BNP support may be over-represented here in relation to society in general.

And UKIP looks like a dull xenophobic little Englander party when compared to the shiny shouty nastiness of the BNP.

[Pondlife]

Will the the UKIP empty my bins more frequently?

Not sure. Couldn't read past the first page without rolling my eyes.

http://www.ukip.org/index.php?page=m...=manifesto2005

[Troll]

I know these polls are mostly bollox because of multiple ids etc but it's interesting that more people would go to the extreme of BNP (I don't care how how often they say they'll empty your bins they're racist) over the UKIP.

Will the the UKIP empty my bins more frequently?

[Old Greg]

Vote early... vote often

A good Irish saying, I believe.

[Pondlife]

Remember that this is a Contractor's site and in another site, you'd probably get a different breakdown.

I understand that your going to get a higher turn out for the Tories on here than on publicsectorworker.com. It was the BNP Vs UKIP I was questioning.

Wanting to make/keep more money doesn't make you racist.