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Previously on "Does this make me look stupid.."

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by EqualOpportunities
    You can't. End of.

    Yes, you can be a Functional Consultant, etc, etc, but not an Apps DBA.
    You can - the number of things that you are allowed to change and manipulate as a core DBA is huge compared to the number of things that Apps DBAs are allowed to change.

    I did an upgrade course a while back - two core DBAs running the class, most students were Apps DBAs. The number of times that there was a blank look to questions that began "You know how you used to have to change..." simply because the vast majority of the attendees had never needed to make any of the configuration changes that a core DBA needs to do.

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  • SallyAnne
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    Originally posted by oloks
    Had an interview few hrs ago, role advertised was Apps DBA which is what I do, but from the interview all questions where based on Core DBA skills which is not my strength. At this stage I suggested we abort the interview so as not to waste anybody's time.

    Am I wrong in doing this?

    Would you say any of the panel were particularly sexy?

    If so, then your interview wasn't a complete waste of time eh?

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  • EqualOpportunities
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    Originally posted by PrinceNamor
    I was just going to sya the same. Most apps DBA's started out as 'core' dba's. I don't see how you could be an app's dba without having a strong understanding of core Oracle DBA priniciples?
    You can't. End of.

    Yes, you can be a Functional Consultant, etc, etc, but not an Apps DBA.

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  • PrinceNamor
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    Originally posted by EqualOpportunities
    Surely, being an Apps DBA is an extension to being a core DBA? How can you possibly expect to do a half decent job without understanding the underlying technology?
    I was just going to sya the same. Most apps DBA's started out as 'core' dba's. I don't see how you could be an app's dba without having a strong understanding of core Oracle DBA priniciples?

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  • EqualOpportunities
    replied
    Originally posted by oloks
    Had an interview few hrs ago, role advertised was Apps DBA which is what I do, but from the interview all questions where based on Core DBA skills which is not my strength. At this stage I suggested we abort the interview so as not to waste anybody's time.

    Am I wrong in doing this?
    Surely, being an Apps DBA is an extension to being a core DBA? How can you possibly expect to do a half decent job without understanding the underlying technology?

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  • Old Greg
    replied
    Originally posted by Bluebird
    whats happening today, even Mal seems to be fluffy & nice in his replies ?
    Ah, but I'm always fluffy and nice.

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  • Bluebird
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    Originally posted by Old Greg
    No probs - next time the rota will probably have me on abuse detail, but someone else will be able to help.
    whats happening today, even Mal seems to be fluffy & nice in his replies ?

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  • Old Greg
    replied
    Originally posted by oloks
    Thanks for your professional comment..
    No probs - next time the rota will probably have me on abuse detail, but someone else will be able to help.

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  • BlasterBates
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    If you've taken the time off to attend an interview, it makes commercial sense to see it through, because they might have another role, which is suitable for you. Ending the interview means you definitely did waste your time, because you ruled yourself out not just this particular role but any other role they may have in the future.

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  • oloks
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    Originally posted by Old Greg
    Ok - you've had your abuse.

    Try steering the conversation to say something like:
    I understood that the contract required x skills, and I'd be happy to give you examples of my skills and what I've achieved using these skills. If there's been a misunderstanding and you are actually looking for y skills, then I doubt that I'll be able to help you because I don't have the necessary skills in that area. But I'd be very happy to go through my x skills in case you do have a requirement either now or in the future.
    Thanks for your professional comment..

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  • DodgyAgent
    replied
    Originally posted by Old Greg
    Ok - you've had your abuse.

    Try steering the conversation to say something like:
    I understood that the contract required x skills, and I'd be happy to give you examples of my skills and what I've achieved using these skills. If there's been a misunderstanding and you are actually looking for y skills, then I doubt that I'll be able to help you because I don't have the necessary skills in that area. But I'd be very happy to go through my x skills in case you do have a requirement either now or in the future.
    At last, someone with some commercial sense.

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  • Old Greg
    replied
    Ok - you've had your abuse.

    Try steering the conversation to say something like:
    I understood that the contract required x skills, and I'd be happy to give you examples of my skills and what I've achieved using these skills. If there's been a misunderstanding and you are actually looking for y skills, then I doubt that I'll be able to help you because I don't have the necessary skills in that area. But I'd be very happy to go through my x skills in case you do have a requirement either now or in the future.

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  • alreadypacked
    replied
    Originally posted by el duder
    good work.
    Praise from an expert

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  • el duder
    replied
    Originally posted by oloks
    Had an interview few hrs ago, role advertised was Apps DBA which is what I do, but from the interview all questions where based on Core DBA skills which is not my strength. At this stage I suggested we abort the interview so as not to waste anybody's time.

    Am I wrong in doing this?
    good work.

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  • BrilloPad
    replied
    Originally posted by oloks
    Had an interview few hrs ago, role advertised was Apps DBA which is what I do, but from the interview all questions where based on Core DBA skills which is not my strength. At this stage I suggested we abort the interview so as not to waste anybody's time.

    Am I wrong in doing this?
    They will be very impressed!

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