Reply to: UK is chock full of tax dodging scum

[BrilloPad]

the money that we pay in tax is first and foremost spent on increasing the power and influence of the government and the state. The needs of the consumer (us) come a long way behind.

hear hear. lets have a revolution...

[DodgyAgent]

quite right. i would rather have spent it myself than waste it on your education or the antibiotics for treating the social diseases you catch from said eastern european lap-deancers.....

where exactly does one get a decent education provided by the govt?
And is the government genuinely investing tax money on clinical research in a way that the needs of the people of the UK come first?

No is the answer to both questions.

the money that we pay in tax is first and foremost spent on increasing the power and influence of the government and the state. The needs of the consumer (us) come a long way behind.

Your argument is the old one that presumes that a sh*t service is the only choice we have, so pay your tax and lump it. Not so, until the socialist scum that run our public services learn that they are the servants of the people above anything else, then they have no right to our tax.

[Rantor]

One important question that seems not to get asked is "in who's hands is tax money better off"? Is it better to give it to the government who will use it primarily to extend their control and influence over greater numbers of the population, or is it better left for me to spend on Eastern european lap dancers , buying flash motors and eating and drinking where the knock on effect will be to sustain work?

If I had been one of the private equity guys sitting in front of a parliamentary committee to explain why I was paying so little tax, I would have argued the f****** that the money was better and more wisely spent by myself rather than by corrupt little idiots like them .

You would need to splash out on a serious amount of crotch-grinding to balance things out - I think an extended (government-sponsored) study into this is needed.

The immorality of paying tax - definitely one to start a decent bun-fight over. Personally, I'm all for taking a principled stand and only giving governments what I think they need but I'm not sure I'd trust you lot to be as honest an virtuous as me.

[anally retentive]

One important question that seems not to get asked is "in who's hands is tax money better off"? Is it better to give it to the government who will use it primarily to extend their control and influence over greater numbers of the population, or is it better left for me to spend on Eastern european lap dancers , buying flash motors and eating and drinking where the knock on effect will be to sustain work?

If I had been one of the private equity guys sitting in front of a parliamentary committee to explain why I was paying so little tax, I would have argued the f****** that the money was better and more wisely spent by myself rather than by corrupt little idiots like them .

quite right. i would rather have spent it myself than waste it on your education or the antibiotics for treating the social diseases you catch from said eastern european lap-deancers.....

[chicane]

No no no - redistribution of wealth is the way, as per our excellent Labour government. Tax anybody who earns enough to enjoy a few luxuries to the hilt, and redistribute the cash to the work-dodging masses, thereby removing any incentive for anybody to work and creating a nation of people dependent on benefits coming from a rapidly-diminishing pot that will cease to exist in 10 years.

That's the way.

[Euro-commuter]

A flat tax of less than 30% is not going to add up. And at that rate it will still be worthwhile jumping through the necessary hoops to to keep the income offshore and avoid it.

tim

CUK article Single rate 'flat tax' drafted for UK suggested

In Britain, the flat rate tax would be best at 20 per cent, allowing it to parallel the experience of Estonia where lowering the level from 26 per cent to 20 per cent, has persuaded more people into payment.

[DodgyAgent]

One important question that seems not to get asked is "in who's hands is tax money better off"? Is it better to give it to the government who will use it primarily to extend their control and influence over greater numbers of the population, or is it better left for me to spend on Eastern european lap dancers , buying flash motors and eating and drinking where the knock on effect will be to sustain work?

If I had been one of the private equity guys sitting in front of a parliamentary committee to explain why I was paying so little tax, I would have argued the f****** that the money was better and more wisely spent by myself rather than by corrupt little idiots like them .

[chicane]

Perhaps - but when it's us contractors that are being squeezed out of the Central London Housing market by the Non-Doms with all their tax advantages then were going to winge

It could be worse; you could be a "key worker" or in a blue collar job. Then you'd have cause for complaint. You're complaining because you can't afford somewhere "nice" to live. Those poor folk can't afford somewhere to live full stop.

[Hart-floot]

This is a CONTRACTORS board, so complaining about the rich is clearly inappropriate.

Perhaps - but when it's us contractors that are being squeezed out of the Central London Housing market by the Non-Doms with all their tax advantages then were going to winge

[scooterscot]

Tax after anything like £100k pa should be 10%, no NI crap. This will be sufficiently low for rich folk to have no excuses to avoid paying tax, and if they do kick their asses to jail. But of course this won't happen since Govts want to look tough on the rich while actually hitting middle class people.

So I'm one up on middle class?! cooool

[AtW]

This is a CONTRACTORS board, so complaining about the rich is clearly inappropriate.

It is appropriate since Govt goes pretty far trying to get small folks with IR35 and others, where as under its nose super rich people don't pay any income taxes even when paying themselves billion or more in dividends.

[hugebrain]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6227070.stm

According to the newspaper, out of the hundreds of people paid more than £10m a year in the UK, only 65 are facing income tax bills.

Well I never, who would have thought it? The seriously rich are getting seriously richer and are not paying taxes.

This is a CONTRACTORS board, so complaining about the rich is clearly inappropriate. Anyway, the article is obviously a lie, by "paid more than £10m a year in the UK" they must mean "paid more than £10m somewhere sensible where it won't be taxed",

[AtW]

Tax after anything like £100k pa should be 10%, no NI crap. This will be sufficiently low for rich folk to have no excuses to avoid paying tax, and if they do kick their asses to jail. But of course this won't happen since Govts want to look tough on the rich while actually hitting middle class people.

[Diver]

Don't knock us for doing exactly what you would do if you were in the same position.


Caviar & Bubbly anyone?

[tim123]

For the love of Allah...as I have said a hundred times before, this country needs a flat tax regime where it costs less to actually pay your taxes than it does to avoid paying your taxes! :

Mailman

A flat tax of less than 30% is not going to add up. And at that rate it will still be worthwhile jumping through the necessary hoops to to keep the income offshore and avoid it.

tim