Eds

[nucastle]

I have a friend who works for EDS as a permie. It's not unusual for him to go for months without being given any work to do, despite constantly harrassing his manager.

In my amazing 2 month long career at EDS, my sum total of work was 2 small applications (one to generate a simple xml feed, and another one that reads an excel spreadsheet and then talks to LDAP/AD) .... probably about 2 weeks total work off and on.

... The other 6 weeks i was basically left to my own devices.

[SallyAnne]

SA Are the number of failed EDS projects and your regular employment with them, in any way related?

I did have a bit of a complex for a while

[Troll]

Ahhhh he seems really nice - I like him. Whoever he is (and he's bound to be on here) you seem like a sweet guy, and I hope you've learnt massage by now!

SA Are the number of failed EDS projects and your regular employment with them, in any way related?

[chicane]

I have a friend who works for EDS as a permie. It's not unusual for him to go for months without being given any work to do, despite constantly harrassing his manager.

[SallyAnne]

Jim - if you are also a poster on here.... I'm not sure I would have done this!!

http://www.eadon.com/intro/jim.php

Ahhhh he seems really nice - I like him. Whoever he is (and he's bound to be on here) you seem like a sweet guy, and I hope you've learnt massage by now!

[Troll]

Jim - if you are also a poster on here.... I'm not sure I would have done this!!

http://www.eadon.com/intro/jim.php

Prior to my life as a self-employed contractor, I was employed by an American mega-corp, EDS. In England, as far as I can tell, relatively few people have heard of EDS, despite the fact that they are a mind-blowingly colossal computer services corporation that have several mega-contracts with the British government. Worldwide, EDS hires enough people to fill my hometown of Newport (Shropshire) twelve times over, and Newport itself is big enough to support eleven pubs and even a nightclub.
EDS is the only dysfunctional company I have worked for, before or since. The faintly amusingly named and less winningly inept CEO Dick Brown's reign closely coincided with my employment at EDS. Dick was fired after investors halved the corporation's market value. His reward for being one of the worst managers in history? An obscenely gargantuan golden parachute. Dick made approximately 90 million dollars in that time. So perhaps he was not so inept after all, but did what it takes to make money (for himself, not EDS investors of course).
EDS have consistently consumed billions of tax payers's loot on poorly managed, failed projects, yet are awarded further contracts because they are adept at dealing with the abstract grind of government contract application.

[SallyAnne]

whats the difference between 1 and 2 / 3 and 4 ?

1) Worked for them as a permie.
Sh*t pay. Tret liek sh*t.

2) Worked with them as a permie.
Frustration, annoyance, constantly chasing them to do work, occasional use of EDS Gold Card which can be nice) but general EDS hating.

3) Worked for them as a contractor.
Loads of cash!!! Tret with respect. Still boring work.

4) Worked with them as a contractor!!
Frustration, annoyance, constantly chasing them to do work, status and ability to shout at them

[Cooperinliverp00l]

I've: -
1) Worked for them as a permie.
2) Worked with them as a permie.
3) Worked for them as a contractor.
4) Worked with them as a contractor!!

They are utterly useless at all 4!

Never ever ever do option 1 (I cant stress that enough really). Try to avoid options 2 and 4...but option 3 can be very very financially rewarding. Grab it with both hands.

And good luck The Farmer

whats the difference between 1 and 2 / 3 and 4 ?

[Troll]

What is EDS's record on delivery of projects?

[SallyAnne]

I've: -
1) Worked for them as a permie.
2) Worked with them as a permie.
3) Worked for them as a contractor.
4) Worked with them as a contractor!!

They are utterly useless at all 4!

Never ever ever do option 1 (I cant stress that enough really). Try to avoid options 2 and 4...but option 3 can be very very financially rewarding. Grab it with both hands.

And good luck The Farmer

[Cooperinliverp00l]

i had my first IT related job with them and joined there Modern Apprentice scheme. That was sept 2000 and was on 11k pa. They did put me on a lot of training but never put up the pay. Would never become permie with them again but would go back as contractor as the people i worked with every day were spot on and a good laugh.

[nucastle]

Just left them as a permie

.... I still have the company laptop they gave me that they have no attempt to get back - despite me giving them a new address with my contact details on my resignation. Even my resignation letter was never seen by HR (despite sending it to them) and i only ever met my line manager the week before i was due to leave the company (never met him before that, or had any formal inductions etc).

Not a bad bunch of people at all - everyone i dealt with there was pleasant enough, but the sheer size of the company, the locations they are spread across, and their 'outsourced' administrative functions just make you feel like a drop in the ocean, and a badly managed one at that.

Still - the full security clearance they sponsored me for meant ive been able to walk into my latest contract with no effort

[angusglover]

I have worked both for them and with them...

I would as a contractor but never again as a permie....they just do not treat people well and are so badly organised...

[threaded]

Well, whenever anyone goes on about rates I always think of how much EDS charges for a fsckwit.

[The Farmer]

Anyone worked for them??

Good or Bad???