If you fill a country with third world immigrants....

[Captain Dispensable]

How did NYC deal with their gang culture problems in the 70s/80s, as depicted in films like "The Warriors"? Seems London could do with learning some lessons.

The article indicates that many of the perps are asylum seekers rather than immigrants and when it goes on about post-traumatic stress it implies that the abusees have become the abusers.

My prediction is that Labour will set up a half-arsed attempt to provide counselling (if they don't already) for asylum seekers. It may have merit where there is evidence of genuine persecution, torture and mental illness, hence why they are seeking asylum, but at the hands of the goverment it will be ineffective, wasteful, and require a new IT system. Ok, I'm sold.

To sort out the rest who are classed as immigrants rather than asylum seekers, maybe that points system for immigrants needs to be retrospective, going back over the last 5-10 years where immigration has rocketed. If those already here are making a distinct beneficial contribution to the UK they'll have all the points they need to be able to stay. Too simple?

[xoggoth]

Scarcely a surprise. Who do PC sorts think is committing all the murders reported by the WHO in places like Somalia, Jamaica etc.? tourists?

[chicane]

But surely a load of gun running crack dealers aid the economy with all the taxes they pay? Whereas a kid chalking on the sidewalk is pretty much scoffing at the IR.

It depends if both the kid and the dealers are operating as BoS permatemps or real, bona-fide businesses. If they're paying themselves high dividends and low salary for the purposes of tax/NI evasion, the lot of them deserve the worst punishment enforcable by the law.

[threaded]

Because in policing league table terms, it's a lot easier to nick a kid for chalking on the pavement than to nick a load of gun running dealers. Good ol' Tony. Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

But surely a load of gun running crack dealers aid the economy with all the taxes they pay? Whereas a kid chalking on the sidewalk is pretty much scoffing at the IR.

[chicane]

They can count them accurately
then why not charge them?

Because in policing league table terms, it's a lot easier to nick a kid for chalking on the pavement than to nick a load of gun running dealers. Good ol' Tony. Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

[Troll]

They can count them accurately
then why not charge them?

Did you mean tax them... like issuing a permit to be in a gang?

[andy]

171 street gangs, eh? Bit of a random number!

They can count them accurately
then why not charge them?

[swissmike]

171 street gangs, eh? Bit of a random number!

[threaded]

Sorry... forgot to mention... would the BNP sort this out?

No, and I would imagine they'd encourage it for their own nefarious purposes....

[Troll]

Sorry... forgot to mention... would the BNP sort this out?

[Troll]

Why is this a suprise?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6612817.stm

Young immigrants from violent and war-torn countries are fuelling mayhem and murder on London's streets, according to a new report.

Research from Scotland Yard says increasing numbers of youths with significant post-traumatic stress are having a negative impact in the city.

There are currently 171 street gangs operating in London says the report.