Originally posted by ratewhore
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Originally posted by BlasterBatesWell I don't know about the UK market. In Germany some people (thousands) try to do it cheaply and end up in a ruin, and don't usually have enough to tear it down, as by the time it's clear they live in a ruin they're on the verge of personal bankruptcy. Normally by this stage the building company has gone bankrupt, and the ex-Managing Director is managing a new company. Mind you I think in the UK the situation is a lot better.
They have abolished this anomoly.
tim
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I blame Sarah Beeny.
But she's got great norks so I'll let her off if she lets me play with them for a while...
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Originally posted by Captain DispensableJust buy some green-belt such as a lump of forest, build your house, and erect some WWII style camouflage so it can't be seen unless you know where it is.
Alternatively, build into the side of a hill and cover the entrance with astroturf.
A bit of lateral thinking is all it takes.
Council guy, laughing, "What are you going to do with that?"
Farmer, "Shoot you if you come any closer."
Council guy, "Go on then."
Bang,
One dead council guy.
I dunno, it should be sad, but it still makes me laugh.
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In the late 90s I noticed a plot of land for sale in a small village in green belt just inside the M25. It was T shaped, with the bottom of the T giving access to the road and the top bigger bit being behind existing houses. I thought it was just big enough for a reasonable house at the top with a long garden to the road. I made enquiries with the estate agent, who quoted something like two million pounds.
A developer subsequently built a small block of flats on it (with what looks like a one bedroom house on the bottom of the T, with an access road going past it.)
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Just buy some green-belt such as a lump of forest, build your house, and erect some WWII style camouflage so it can't be seen unless you know where it is.
Alternatively, build into the side of a hill and cover the entrance with astroturf.
A bit of lateral thinking is all it takes.
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Originally posted by TrollAs always - the trouble is getting the land - so many chasing with a view to doing the same - best bet is find a bungalow , demolish & rebuild - but it is a pricey way of doing things
- there is a usefull magazine - self build home ..I think
The main magazine is called Homebuilding & Renovating http://tinyurl.com/3dl9n7 and they also have exhibitions throughout the year (free entrance) http://tinyurl.com/2jd7w3
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Originally posted by SoupDragonI don't know about neighbours land but if you pinch other land (from highways etc) then as long as you keep it quiet for 12 years it becomes 'possessory land' - yours in name but there are limits to what you can do with it.
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Originally posted by ratewhoreThe rule of thumb used to be the land should cost 30% of the value of the finished house.
Here in Oxfordshire you just cannot get land at a reasonable price, even with a crappy house on it. I've seen a few where there is DPP for a nice house (3-4 bed detached usually) and to buy the land with the original house on costs you £5-6-700,000 (and yes I have seen one at £700,000). Then you have the cost and ballache of a build...
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Originally posted by rootsnallJust selling my grandad's old house and we have discovered he pinched quite chunk of land off the neighbours and built a garage on it !
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Originally posted by milanbeneshe he land grabbing off the neighbours eh
Milan.
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Well I don't know about the UK market. In Germany some people (thousands) try to do it cheaply and end up in a ruin, and don't usually have enough to tear it down, as by the time it's clear they live in a ruin they're on the verge of personal bankruptcy. Normally by this stage the building company has gone bankrupt, and the ex-Managing Director is managing a new company. Mind you I think in the UK the situation is a lot better.
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Building costs have a rule of thumb £80 per square foot for the shell
£40 for finishing.
Just doing an extention that because the builders a relative comes in at 100k in the sarf east. its 1000 sq feet so quite large.
You can build a standard box for slightly less but not very interesting.
Building regs are the biggest problem in this country, for doing self build. And they seem to change all the time.
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The rule of thumb used to be the land should cost 30% of the value of the finished house.
Here in Oxfordshire you just cannot get land at a reasonable price, even with a crappy house on it. I've seen a few where there is DPP for a nice house (3-4 bed detached usually) and to buy the land with the original house on costs you £5-6-700,000 (and yes I have seen one at £700,000). Then you have the cost and ballache of a build...
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