Reply to: Help for newbie

[Churchill]

He is in my opinion too young to start contracting - this is more of a temp assignment till he finds a job with some training attached.....................but why is he a naughty boy?

He wears your clothes and sells his body to people like el_duder.

[lukemg]

The notice period will be for early termination, otherwise the contract is for the weeks specified i.e. he can't give his notice one day before the end of the contract and get 4 weeks pay !
This could just be a 'taster' and if he makes himself damn useful I wouldn't be surprised if it gets extended. Time and again I am assured a contract will ONLY last a certain time and every time it gets extended sometimes for years !
Don't sweat the details, tell him to get in there and be johnny-keen, nothing too much trouble and you never know.
HTH

[MarkOaten]

My 20 year old son was made redundant 2 weeks ago from his first and only job.
He was offered a contract for 4-6 weeks thro a job agency who insist he signs up with Giant. I have read his contract and am confused................most of it is standard b******t but I don't understand why he has to give notice to Giant - not just to the assignment.

Please can somebody explain it in easy language to me. He started work on Monday so he needs to either sign or reject the contract soooooon.

If it makes a difference he does not want to be a contractor long term - but this was too good an opportunity to miss.

Thanks

Mum

20, mmmmm....... send him to me

[thunderlizard]

Dunno. Ring up Giant and ask them. They won't bite.

[mum]

Damn - is this a wind-up?[/QUOTE]

No to the wind up.

I used to work (briefly) for a company that did similar stuff and is now being thoroughly investigated (I hope). It made sure my son asked me to read his contract. No names necessary!

I don't follow why he has to give notice to Giant - when his contract ends he will probably go permanent somewhere (I hope). Does the notice period mean he just pays his monthly fee for a month when he isn't working?

[DimPrawn]

I hope my mum doesn't start posting on here, asking if I should be using .NET at my age. Oh tulip, here she comes now....laters.

[jenever]

Personally a boy of this age should be lying in bed at home, smoking crack during the week and pissed over the weekend.

What kind of parent makes a 20 year old boy go to work. Shame on you.

Hell, someones's got to pay the rent, and why should 20 year olds have all the fun?

[MarillionFan]

Personally a boy of this age should be lying in bed at home, smoking crack during the week and pissed over the weekend.

What kind of parent makes a 20 year old boy go to work. Shame on you.

[jenever]

My 20 year old son was made redundant 2 weeks ago from his first and only job.
He was offered a contract for 4-6 weeks thro a job agency who insist he signs up with Giant. I have read his contract and am confused................most of it is standard b******t but I don't understand why he has to give notice to Giant - not just to the assignment.

Please can somebody explain it in easy language to me. He started work on Monday so he needs to either sign or reject the contract soooooon.

If it makes a difference he does not want to be a contractor long term - but this was too good an opportunity to miss.

Thanks

Mum

It is normal for the agency to have a contract with the client, and the contractor with the agency (I assume it is the same with umbrellas). That is how they protect their margin. Common business practice and nothing to be concerned about. If he wants to quit he gives notice to Giant under the terms of his contract with them (that's what you need to read). If it is only 4-6 weeks it is not a problem.

Damn - is this a wind-up?

[HankWangford]

Not a Monty Python fan, are you?

class

[cojak]

but I don't understand why he has to give notice to Giant - not just to the assignment

Because if he accepts the contract 'as is' he's an employee of Giant, not the agency or the client.

Oh Dear...

[thunderlizard]

I was 20 when I started contracting.

But yes, I am a complete winger and ten years down the line I have long abandoned any hope of getting a permanent job with anybody else.

[cojak]

He is in my opinion too young to start contracting - this is more of a temp assignment till he finds a job with some training attached.....................but why is he a naughty boy?

Not a Monty Python fan, are you?

[HankWangford]

He is in my opinion too young to start contracting - this is more of a temp assignment till he finds a job with some training attached.....................but why is he a naughty boy?

never too young. What does he do, also I'd get onto the agency. Dont take no shat from them, advising who to contract through is akin to you telling them to bank with the bank of india

[thunderlizard]

Having started might actually work in his favour if he doesn't want to use Giant
(a) if he's already started making the end client happy, the agency would probably rather lose whatever kickback they're getting from Giant than lose your boy's revenue-generating services
(b) Hank's right, starting working to the contract is as good as signing it, but if Giant's not mentioned it makes them easy to cut out.

I'm not an umbrella contractor so don't know exactly what the notice period is about, but if Giant's going to be his employer then I suppose they'd want a few weeks notice if he was going to quit them.

If you can combine card (a) with a bit of pressure coming back down from the end client too, you can probably dispense with Giant. What's the worst that could happen? He has to move back in with you for a couple of weeks before starting the whole process again with a bit more knowledge.