Reply to: The same bunch of nutters

[xoggoth]

Bumble bees are innocent!

5G is a US conspiracy to cause a war with China.

Maybe it's wasps. They look a bit Chinese. And quite intelligent apparently:

Wasps are smarter than we thought, a new study shows - CNN

[SueEllen]

Anyway, my extensive research shows that 5G is spread by Bumblebees.

Bumble bees are innocent!

5G is a US conspiracy to cause a war with China.

[xoggoth]

Anyway, my extensive research shows that 5G is spread by Bumblebees.

[xoggoth]

I know Bigtree is on their website, he's a loony, but can't see any info that he's right wing or a Brexiteer. Can't find any links between Del Bigtree and Farage either, apart from completely unrelated posts on Twitter, Pinterest etc.

Maybe I'm missing summit, so come on, give us a link.

[AtW]

You just have to read their website and Del Bigtree is at the bottom of the home page. Del Bigtree and Fatrage were campaigning together.

That does not prove anything!

[Paddy]

Bunch of loonies probably but I can't see anything online linking them, or the Del Bigtree bloke you mentioned, to the right wing or Brexit. Germy Carbuncle's brother has been significantly involved.

Got any evidence or is this just typical lefty slurring?

While there are some associations between apparently unrelated issues, just trotting out this sort of comment is simplistic and often nonsensical. For example, opposition to abortion, gay rights, and mass immigration are all deemed "right wing" but some ethnic minorities are much less liberal on the first two issues than the majority of the population. So they are right wing?

You just have to read their website and Del Bigtree is at the bottom of the home page. Del Bigtree and Fatrage were campaigning together.

[AtW]

They'll have far less say over control of their own nations than they did in the UK.

They'll be able to block England from joining EU, just like France or Germany.

[xoggoth]

joining EU as separate, equal members.

Scotland and Wales would be equal to Germany and France? Yeh, right! They'll have far less say over control of their own nations than they did in the UK.

[xoggoth]

I'm not comparing the EU commission with Tito exactly, no forced labour camps yet, but nobody in the UK ever had the opportunity to make an informed choice. We never had a choice about entering what was then the EEC and it's the aims were much misrepresented in the later referendum.

If you were as ancient as me, you'd see how this this association of Brexit with the right wing is simplistic. Back then the Labour party, especially the left wing, was opposed to the EEC.

Anyway, if we keep posting about this in General, I think Nat will come along and ban us.

[AtW]

Look at Yugoslavia, that didn't work out too well did it?

It did not work out well because that country was made up of members who were forced to be there - United Kingdom fits that analogy than EU (from where it's possible and relatively easy to leave).

So what you've voted for isn't just leaving EU, it's break up of the UK, with individual countries later joining EU as separate, equal members.

[xoggoth]

So you view support of Farage as a negative?

What support of Farage? Google standupx farage and the only thing that comes up is this stupid thread.

Most people don't match the conceptions of right, left or liberal on every unrelated issue. Personally, I am right of centre on some things, more left of centre or liberal on others, I think most people are. It is the the extremists on both sides that cause problems.

Just take the EU, I voted out but am not a fanatic. If the leaders would take more account of real differences in economy and culture, rather than try and impose their unrealistic ideals on us, I would have preferred to stay in. Look at Yugoslavia, that didn't work out too well did it?

Or immigration. I don't think most on the right of centre on that want a simplistic race-based system, we just want proper controls that protect the population and help us to build a high skill economy, not a massive influx of the low skilled that puts enormous pressures on resources in an already overpopulated country.

[AtW]

Got any evidence or is this just typical lefty slurring?

So you view support of Farage as a negative?

[xoggoth]

Bunch of loonies probably but I can't see anything online linking them, or the Del Bigtree bloke you mentioned, to the right wing or Brexit. Germy Carbuncle's brother has been significantly involved.

Got any evidence or is this just typical lefty slurring?

While there are some associations between apparently unrelated issues, just trotting out this sort of comment is simplistic and often nonsensical. For example, opposition to abortion, gay rights, and mass immigration are all deemed "right wing" but some ethnic minorities are much less liberal on the first two issues than the majority of the population. So they are right wing?

[woohoo]

One bunch of nutters complaining about another bunch of nutter, nuts.

[Mordac]

honestly I thought they were all remainders having the paddies

No, it's just Paddy having a paddy...