Reply to: Tale from wales about benefit claims

[BR14]

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[JohntheBike]

Amazed anyone does not know about the Welsh Knot. Some of the fervent nationalists talk about little else.

I guess that the schools in North Wales weren't affected so much. It was generally English speaking teachers in South Wales who enthusiastically interpreted the Green Paper.

However, I was in the queue of a supermarket in Criccieth just last year and I realised then how some younger Welsh speaking individuals didn't know about the Welsh (k)Not.

There was an older woman in front of me at the checkout, with a younger one behind. We were all waiting patiently to be served as there was what transpired to be an argument between a Romany looking woman and the checkout assistant in front of all of us.

I realised she was cursing him in Welsh for some reason and the woman in front of me turned to me and started speaking in Welsh. I said politely in my pigeon Welsh, "dim siarad Cymraeg" and she continued in English, whereupon the younger woman chipped in and was surprised that I didn't speak Welsh, given my strong Welsh accent.

I related that my grand parents had been subject to the Welsh (k)Not and so didn't speak Welsh to my parents, who naturally couldn't speak it to me. She didn't know what the Welsh (k)Not was! She was a native of North Wales.

Ironically, the only person who correctly translated my three phrases without hesitation, was an English man who had lived in Lampeter for 60 years and had married a Welsh speaking woman! So when confronted by an aggressive Welsh speaker, I usually shut them up with my three questions.

[BrilloPad]

and I've found that 100% of those cannot translate three Welsh phrases that I give them into their English meaning. I can, and I can't claim to be Welsh speaking. Also, there are those gogs who do not know about the Welsh (k)Not.

Amazed anyone does not know about the Welsh Knot. Some of the fervent nationalists talk about little else.

[JohntheBike]

Only 19% of Welsh speak Welsh. Yet they still make such a fuss about it.

So you are probably right. Carry on surpressing the northern insergents....

Only 19% of Welsh speak Welsh

and I've found that 100% of those cannot translate three Welsh phrases that I give them into their English meaning. I can, and I can't claim to be Welsh speaking. Also, there are those gogs who do not know about the Welsh (k)Not.

[Zigenare]

Native Non-Welsh speaking Newportonian here. I escaped years ago but only by a few miles.

Swindon?

[TheLordDave]

Yep thats it. To be fair, I'm not born and bred in newport Im a proper valleys taffy, I live right on the outskirts in a slightly nicer part, and we only moved here years ago because it was closer to Bristol/Bath/Cheltenham/Gloucs for contract work!

Native Non-Welsh speaking Newportonian here. I escaped years ago but only by a few miles.

[Zigenare]

Only 19% of Welsh speak Welsh. Yet they still make such a fuss about it.

So you are probably right. Carry on surpressing the northern insergents....

I was in the shop at Bangor Hospital collecting some items for Mother during her stay - she's still there btw.

The young lady on the till didn't like the fact that the old bloke she was serving suddenly switched to Welsh from English. She said "I can speak Welsh, I choose not to. I will not be bullied into speaking Welsh by you or anyone else!"

******* taffs!

[BrilloPad]

Ha ha used to visit north wales a lot with work years ago. They were horrified I couldnt speak Welsh (this was caernarvon mind) and you could see the look in their eyes.

Mind you took daughter to see Santa at St Fagans last weekend. (she does speak welsh, goes to welsh language school) Had horrified looks from the other parents when I had to admit my welsh wasn't good enough to understand the parent instructions. I had a rough idea but thats about it.

Only 19% of Welsh speak Welsh. Yet they still make such a fuss about it.

So you are probably right. Carry on surpressing the northern insergents....

[psychocandy]

Just remember that everyone in Mid and North Wales hate you all. The assembly only cares about South Wales.

Ha ha used to visit north wales a lot with work years ago. They were horrified I couldnt speak Welsh (this was caernarvon mind) and you could see the look in their eyes.

Mind you took daughter to see Santa at St Fagans last weekend. (she does speak welsh, goes to welsh language school) Had horrified looks from the other parents when I had to admit my welsh wasn't good enough to understand the parent instructions. I had a rough idea but thats about it.

[BrilloPad]

Yep thats it. To be fair, I'm not born and bred in newport Im a proper valleys taffy

Just remember that everyone in Mid and North Wales hate you all. The assembly only cares about South Wales.

[psychocandy]

Did someone say Newport?

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Yep thats it. To be fair, I'm not born and bred in newport Im a proper valleys taffy, I live right on the outskirts in a slightly nicer part, and we only moved here years ago because it was closer to Bristol/Bath/Cheltenham/Gloucs for contract work!

[ladymuck]

Did someone say Newport?

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[psychocandy]

That must have been a while ago.

Walking from the station to the passport office I was beginning to wonder which country I was in.

Seems to have changed a bit in the last 40 years.

Posh new shopping area now near passport office. Train station was modernised too a few years ago (for the Ryder Cup).

[DoctorStrangelove]

well, the last time I was anywhere near the centre of Newport, it was paradise compared with Neath.

That must have been a while ago.

Walking from the station to the passport office I was beginning to wonder which country I was in.

Seems to have changed a bit in the last 40 years.

[JohntheBike]

Although born with good, pure valleys blood in my veins I live in newport. Sheep are not as nice mind.

well, the last time I was anywhere near the centre of Newport, it was paradise compared with Neath.