Reply to: UK Biggest Enabler of Large Scale tax Avoidance

[Old Greg]

Only about 100,000 people. Less those who have committed suicide.

But please carry on taking the pee out of dead people. I expected nothing less from you.

Are you making a moral or legal objection here?

[BrilloPad]

I've glazed over this whole loan charge thing - who's complaining about it?

Just some snowflakes in the HMRC Scheme Enquiries sub-forum.

Only about 100,000 people. Less those who have committed suicide.

But please carry on taking the pee out of dead people. I expected nothing less from you.

[Old Greg]

I've glazed over this whole loan charge thing - who's complaining about it?

Just some snowflakes in the HMRC Scheme Enquiries sub-forum.

[Jog On]

So it's no good complaining that a loan charge is immoral. The question is, is it legal?

I've glazed over this whole loan charge thing - who's complaining about it?

[Old Greg]

Linky?

I remember newspaper reports (which were sensationalist - his conflict of interest was declared), I don't remember him being under investigation.

John read it in the Bridgwater Cretin.

[mudskipper]

It's a bit rich though when Mel Stride is under investigation for a conflict of interest!

Linky?

I remember newspaper reports (which were sensationalist - his conflict of interest was declared), I don't remember him being under investigation.

[scooterscot]

It’s the kind of criminal activity that is sanctioned by the Govt -

Cryptocurrency can only dream of being this criminal, funding terror and misery around the world.

[Old Greg]

The question is what does it mean - and who does it apply to?

I know this has been done to death but when these bits of news come out I find it helpful to remind myself of the selective nature of HMRC's priorities when it comes to tax collection.

HMRC selects targets it thinks it can win. Once you remove morality as a factor, then each side (tax avoider and HMRC) is looking to maximise their financial position within the law. So it's no good complaining that a loan charge is immoral. The question is, is it legal?

[Jog On]

The term has a meaning, but feel free to ignore it if you wish.

The question is what does it mean - and who does it apply to?

I know this has been done to death but when these bits of news come out I find it helpful to remind myself of the selective nature of HMRC's priorities when it comes to tax collection.

[Jog On]

It’s the kind of criminal activity that is sanctioned by the Govt - the objective is to increase tax collection in the UK that otherwise would not have happened here, where as when UK taxpayers (little people) try to scam the Outland Revenue then this is when the thumbs get broken

HTH

[AtW]

It’s the kind of criminal activity that is sanctioned by the Govt - the objective is to increase tax collection in the UK that otherwise would not have happened here, where as when UK taxpayers (little people) try to scam the Outland Revenue then this is when the thumbs get broken

HTH

[NotAllThere]

UK by far the biggest enabler of global corporate tax dodging, groundbreaking research finds | The Independent

Who'd have thunk it?! Oh well there goes HMRC's moral high ground when going after us middle people...

If you'd have taken a subscription out for Private Eye, you'd know they've been banging on about for years. It even has anti-EU jokes in it.

[JohntheBike]

The lines between legal and moral do get a bit blurred when certain people (politicians) play the moral card. So we can just tell HMRC that we're acting inside the law and that's the end of the conversation? Splendid!

So does this mean that tax 'avoidance' is a term we can all just ignore as long as it's legal?

It's a bit rich though when Mel Stride is under investigation for a conflict of interest!

[Old Greg]

The lines between legal and moral do get a bit blurred when certain people (politicians) play the moral card. So we can just tell HMRC that we're acting inside the law and that's the end of the conversation? Splendid!

So does this mean that tax 'avoidance' is a term we can all just ignore as long as it's legal?

The term has a meaning, but feel free to ignore it if you wish.

[Old Greg]

No-one objects to a prospective loan charge.

Forget objections. The question is whether it is legal.