Reply to: ULEZ only rich people can drive in London

[DimPrawn]

A bit of a crappy car though

Repair immediately (major defects):
Nearside Headlamp not working on main beam (4.1.1 (a) (ii))
Front Brake disc significantly and obviously worn (1.1.14 (a) (i))
Nearside Rear Shock absorbers has a serious fluid leak (5.3.2 (b))
Offside Rear Shock absorbers has a serious fluid leak (5.3.2 (b))

I'm getting it fixed soon, when funds allow.

[Paddy]

But a £3K Ford Mondeo with a 3L engine doesn't even need to pay:

FY52FPT Silver FORD MONDEO ST220

No ULEZ charge due for this vehicle

This vehicle meets the emission standards for ULEZ so you don't have to pay this charge when driving within the zone.
No LEZ charge due for this vehicle

This vehicle either meets the required emission standards, is exempt from the scheme or is subject to a 100% discount.


Can you not afford a 17 year old Mondeo?

A bit of a crappy car though

Repair immediately (major defects):
Nearside Headlamp not working on main beam (4.1.1 (a) (ii))
Front Brake disc significantly and obviously worn (1.1.14 (a) (i))
Nearside Rear Shock absorbers has a serious fluid leak (5.3.2 (b))
Offside Rear Shock absorbers has a serious fluid leak (5.3.2 (b))

[jds 1981]

It changes neither. Nobody drives any kind of vehicle in central London for a laugh, they drive a vehicle in central London because they have no choice.
But it does bring in a shedload of cash. I wonder if that might have been the real motivation...

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More than 2 million Londoners live in areas with illegal air pollution,

I live nearish the North circular but not anywhere particularly busy, however, when I step outside in the morning I can taste the air. That.is.not.a.good.thing.

[Mordac]

I wouldn't. It seems to me a perfectly reasonable approach to tackling congestion and pollution.

It changes neither. Nobody drives any kind of vehicle in central London for a laugh, they drive a vehicle in central London because they have no choice.
But it does bring in a shedload of cash. I wonder if that might have been the real motivation...

[Mordac]

So Mr Khan is delighted to be charging an extra £12.50 per day to drive in London with the new ULEZ. Fail to pay and its a £160 fine, but better than lorries who have to pay £100 per day and if they fail to do so a £1000 fine So not only can people not afford to live in London they also can't afford to drive in London and I guess taxi fares and so forth are all going up because of this. Will ULEZ see the death of the town centre or is this a ploy to make overpriced electric vehicles look affordable?

Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure my chauffeur is aware.

[Mordac]

But a £3K Ford Mondeo with a 3L engine doesn't even need to pay:

FY52FPT Silver FORD MONDEO ST220

No ULEZ charge due for this vehicle

This vehicle meets the emission standards for ULEZ so you don't have to pay this charge when driving within the zone.
No LEZ charge due for this vehicle

This vehicle either meets the required emission standards, is exempt from the scheme or is subject to a 100% discount.


Can you not afford a 17 year old Mondeo?

Or it's got fake plates so some other poor bugger gets the fines...

[BrilloPad]

I wouldn't. It seems to me a perfectly reasonable approach to tackling congestion and pollution.

Its one way. I don't like poor people being punished more than the rich. I prefer a ban.

[NickFitz]

This is the way of all taxes, get the charge in and accepted, then steadily raise the threshold so more vehicles are caught - at what point would you protest?

I wouldn't. It seems to me a perfectly reasonable approach to tackling congestion and pollution.

[BrilloPad]

Because politicians and the London mayor run tulip scared of the black cab lobby.

They are a very scary lot. One guy spearheads the pro-cycling campaign in London. He funds the annual cycle to protest against cyclist deaths.

As he is also against diesel black cabs due to their high polluting rate, he gets regular death threats on twitter. He also runs a small business that gets regular made up bad reviews. I really take my hat off to him.

[jds 1981]

So why are black cabs exempt and ambulances not? Just a money making exercise

Because politicians and the London mayor run tulip scared of the black cab lobby.

[Anonimouse]

So why are black cabs exempt and ambulances not? Just a money making exercise

[jds 1981]

It's about time cars were taxed more for polluting city centers. Get on her bike fattie and save the NHS some cash.

If your to far to cycle look at mass transport or buy a car that is exempt.

Yes, lots of people I know get a train to London then cycle or run the rest of the way. Good for them, good for the environment where very meritocratic, even poor people can do it.

Soon to be rolled out to other cities...

[BrilloPad]

If he was serious about air quality, he would ban the cars not tax them.

He has increased traffic on the inner london ring road. And soon he will increase traffic on North/South circulars. What is wrong with tightening the LEZ which basically enforces traffic to keep to the M25 or outside?

Anything that annoys car drivers and encourages cycling/walking is good in my view.

[BlueSharp]

It's about time cars were taxed more for polluting city centers. Get on her bike fattie and save the NHS some cash.

If your to far to cycle look at mass transport or buy a car that is exempt.

[Benny]

Assuming you're driving a moderately up-to-date car, you don't have to pay the new charge. My 2001 Toyota Corolla 1.6 won't be charged. My 1989 Ford Orion 1.6i Ghia, sadly, will; but I don't usually take that to London anyway.

This is the way of all taxes, get the charge in and accepted, then steadily raise the threshold so more vehicles are caught - at what point would you protest?