Grrrr Progressive

[cojak]

Snork...

[OrangeHopper]

And as you know the agent thought she was on to a winner when I phoned her. Very disappointed when I told her it was my job she was advertising. She then admitted I was the only person who had called who had the right skills.

[MrsGoof]

Stoopid a55holes are advertising a shed load of ETL/BI/Data Warehouse contracts in the Midlands, all phrased slightly differently, Whats the betting that there is NO CONTRACT at all

my customer has done this, in an attempt to say the market rate is a lot lower than it actually is

[Mordac]

what is more common on the whole now is that we will find out about a role somewhere that we cant work on due to psl's politics or something along those lines.

this will then give us some candidates that we can actually prospectivley market to the non responsive manager, meaning that he actually has to sit up and take notice of the candidates we can provide.

Thank you (genuinely) for answering that one honestly, but this is even more serious than posting fake ads (which tbh I don't care about, if agencies are genuinely collecting CVs for a prospective role which may or may not come off). If XX are actively marketing candidates to potential clients without their permission, they deserve to get sued, and I hope they do. I think this just reinforces my decision to have absolutely nothing to do with XX.

[Dundeegeorge]

A pedant posts

Strictly speaking, they're fraudulently posting 'real' jobs.

[Not So Wise]

what is more common on the whole now is that we will find out about a role somewhere that we cant work on due to psl's politics or something along those lines.

Sorry but this still translates into "we post fake jobs"
If you have not been asked/authorised to submit people for that role whatever ad's you post are fake regardless of the position existing or not

[Theinformer]

on the contrary, as you will have seen here i will not protect or hide my XX employers and will slate ANYTHING they do at the drop of a hat but it is quite rare now that the adverts are fake. what is more common on the whole now is that we will find out about a role somewhere that we cant work on due to psl's politics or something along those lines.

this will then give us some candidates that we can actually prospectivley market to the non responsive manager, meaning that he actually has to sit up and take notice of the candidates we can provide.

The fake adverts thing ended a bit of a while back due to something happening internal whereby someone at the top found something out (not too sure of the ins and outs) but needless to say it left XX with a lot to answer for. and all of you know that XX doesnt like sparing its money easily so fines etc are the last think they want now.

[Mordac]

Not that cunning, anyone with half a braincell worked that out years ago. We generally tend to assume an XX ad is fake, and that responding to one is a waste of several minutes of ones life. Not for nothing are one of their members known as Hoaxl*y.

[DimPrawn]

Can I say, that this is std practice for agencies.

Without fake jobs you don't get a massive load of CV's
Without a massive load of CV's you can't boast how many candidates you have to clients or how many specialists you have "on the books"
Without boasting about candidates, clients think you are not in a position to supply the best people.
And if clients think this, you won't make the preferred supplier list.
If you are not on the preferred supplier list, you won't get anywhere.

HTH

[Theinformer]

what they are told to do is put out multiple adverts for the same role but with slightly different keywords for the search strings to get more results as they automatically get filtered through to all the jobsites aswell.

another reason is that if you are randomly looking through their site you'll see that it appears they have loads of vacancies in that area. making them appear to be specialists or at least popular. when in fact they only have maybe a third of the jobs listed.

another cunning XX group trick

[kramer]

as usual you won't find anyone defending them here...

[Harrysp]

Stoopid a55holes are advertising a shed load of ETL/BI/Data Warehouse contracts in the Midlands, all phrased slightly differently, Whats the betting that there is NO CONTRACT at all