Reply to: BBC ‘forced’ star names to set up firms to avoid tax

[SueEllen]

How can the bbc force anything? If you don't like the terms offered go else where.

Does this mean if I apply for premie roles as well as contract I can claim I was 'forced 'by the agency to take a contract and therefore they are liable?

What a load of balls.

How many large broadcasters are there in the UK let alone the world?

Many people work for the BBC on tulip pay/rates so they can go elsewhere with the name on their CV and get much more money.

In fact some other British broadcasters don't take people if they haven't worked for a big name, and you are less likely to be able to get work in other English speaking countries as well.

This one of the reasons the BBC has got and is getting loads of flak for not having a diverse enough work force in important roles.

I suggest you talk to more people who work in the media specifically TV.

[BlueSharp]

I imagine that as a school child you don't get many roles offered and are ignorant of how the world works for grownups.

Ypur mum taught me everything I need to know.

[BlueSharp]

If you want to work on telly or radio, then they sort of have some clout. The ultimate irony being that we pay for their existence, and having worked there myself, they do have a very strong preference to employing companies over individuals.

And as for the bits I haven't bolded, you are a knobhead and I claim my £5.

I have also worked places that have a strong preference for engaging contractors over employees. One place contractors out numbered employees. This was a company who are dominant in their field and one of the biggest local employers. So how is that different from the BBC?

Or is it because they are all jezza loving, Virtue signalling, snowflakes, the mps are giving them an easy ride?

[madame SasGuru]

Inside or outside ir35 doesn't have a clear legal definition. It is left for the contractor/company to self assess.

How is this any different?

IR35 doesn't appear in any law?

[d000hg]

How can the bbc force anything? If you don't like the terms offered go else where.

Does this mean if I apply for premie roles as well as contract I can claim I was 'forced 'by the agency to take a contract and therefore they are liable?

What a load of balls.

I imagine that as a school child you don't get many roles offered and are ignorant of how the world works for grownups.

[d000hg]

If someone, as Hobosapien did, suggests that a Personal Service Company needs to be / should be treated differently to other Limited Companies how can you treat them definitely without legally defining what makes them different?

Inside or outside ir35 doesn't have a clear legal definition. It is left for the contractor/company to self assess.

How is this any different?

[Mordac]

How can the bbc force anything? If you don't like the terms offered go else where.

Does this mean if I apply for premie roles as well as contract I can claim I was 'forced 'by the agency to take a contract and therefore they are liable?

What a load of balls.

If you want to work on telly or radio, then they sort of have some clout. The ultimate irony being that we pay for their existence, and having worked there myself, they do have a very strong preference to employing companies over individuals.

And as for the bits I haven't bolded, you are a knobhead and I claim my £5.

[BlueSharp]

How can the bbc force anything? If you don't like the terms offered go else where.

Does this mean if I apply for premie roles as well as contract I can claim I was 'forced 'by the agency to take a contract and therefore they are liable?

What a load of balls.

[AtW]

If BBC pays their tax, then should not that amount be deemed as income and thus taxable as well?

[madame SasGuru]

To be an a-hole.

Or to get someone to understand the point without making him look like a total idiot...

Mind you I've been told that I really shouldn't start repair projects by asking people WTF they thought they were doing - except in the Netherlands where they prefer straight talking.

[madame SasGuru]

Yes as I said, PSC seems to mean two entirely separate things which happen to be related in some cases. That's a problem of acronyms only that could lead to confusion.

I'm not sure there has to be a legal definition. You review the guidelines and decide if you are one, like with IR35, and they can challenge it in which case it goes tor review. Many things in our society - including the entire legal system - work on such principles.

If someone, as Hobosapien did, suggests that a Personal Service Company needs to be / should be treated differently to other Limited Companies how can you treat them definitely without legally defining what makes them different?

[SueEllen]

Yes as I said, PSC seems to mean two entirely separate things which happen to be related in some cases. That's a problem of acronyms only that could lead to confusion.

I'm not sure there has to be a legal definition. You review the guidelines and decide if you are one, like with IR35, and they can challenge it in which case it goes tor review. Many things in our society - including the entire legal system - work on such principles.

The thing is, is to get HMRC to use that jargon in front of a judge and for the judge to point out it is meaningless.

[SueEllen]

Why do you think I was asking the question?

To be an a-hole.

[d000hg]

Yes as I said, PSC seems to mean two entirely separate things which happen to be related in some cases. That's a problem of acronyms only that could lead to confusion.

I'm not sure there has to be a legal definition. You review the guidelines and decide if you are one, like with IR35, and they can challenge it in which case it goes tor review. Many things in our society - including the entire legal system - work on such principles.

[madame SasGuru]

You are aware as most of the posters on the board there is no legal definition of a PSC. The definition is made up by HMRC and if people have more than one director in their company, particularly one that is fee earning the PSC definition is a load of rubbish.

Why do you think I was asking the question?