Reply to: Britain is now officially "post-atheist"

[Churchill]

OOh err - I thought freemasonry was supposed to make its members, well rounded, honourable and considerate? What went wrong?

Chico, you'd try the patience of a saint.

Anyway, let him who is without sin etc...

[Chico]

Listen diptulip, the link was posted on another forum and I thought it relevant to the discussion.

BTW, it's "that's" you fuqwit!

OOh err - I thought freemasonry was supposed to make its members, well rounded, honourable and considerate? What went wrong?

[Churchill]

Freemasonry - thats your specialist subject.

Listen diptulip, the link was posted on another forum and I thought it relevant to the discussion.

BTW, it's "that's" you fuqwit!

[Chico]

http://www.rochdaleobserver.co.uk/ne...rk_church.html

Freemasonry - thats your specialist subject.

[Churchill]

Just look around and see how many churches have been sold off to housing developers, universities and other businesses. They weren't sold off because they had too many worshipers, and the remaining churches are hardly full on Sundays.

http://www.rochdaleobserver.co.uk/ne...rk_church.html

ONE of Rochdale’s oldest churches is to close because of a dwindling congregation.

Often described as a monument to freemasonry, St Edmund’s Church was founded by the Royds family in 1873.

[PerlOfWisdom]

In the 1960s the death of God was predicted with confidence and it was believed that religion would soon follow Him to the grave. Church of England bishops were among the first to say the last rites for the Deity.

Just look around and see how many churches have been sold off to housing developers, universities and other businesses. They weren't sold off because they had too many worshipers, and the remaining churches are hardly full on Sundays.

[Francko]

I shall be keeping a close eye on your future posts, you seem to forget the above at every opportunity

What can be more discriminative than just point out certain categories from the rest? What can be more discriminating than just agglomerating sectors that have nothing in common (muslim, gay, atheists) rather than just being the objects of their hate?He does not forget, he keeps discriminating every one who is different just as his "brothers" do.

http://www.rainbownetwork.com/News/d...&nChannel=News

[ratewhore]

Just to add to the debate, this is on the beeb website today, about an ex-vicar who is now agnostic (as am I; agnostic that is, not an ex-vicar!):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6199716.stm

Quick pertinent quote from it:

Einstein, another agnostic, looked at the universe and saw the workings of a "spirit" beyond our understanding, an intuition the atheist would stubble over.

Just my 2p's worth...

[chubba]

That is not racist. Just religiousist.

You haven't answered my questions yet Chico - do you not love me?

How much of your salary do you give your church?

[Chico]

I think that sums up pretty well the reason for the increase in religious loonies.

Xog I never took you to be among the racist posters we have on here.

[Board Game Geek]

Don't Feed the Troll....

[xoggoth]

immigrants, Poles, the Africans

I think that sums up pretty well the reason for the increase in religious loonies.

[foritisme]

It is also worth remembering that Jesus commanded us to love our neighbours. And that means loving them, whether they are gay, Muslim or even Richard Dawkins.

I shall be keeping a close eye on your future posts, you seem to forget the above at every opportunity

[Chico]

Will the Christian soldiers let power go to their heads?

;Analysis;Equality and religion
Ruth Gledhill
506 words
2 December 2006
The Times
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English
(c) 2006 Times Newspapers Limited. All rights reserved

In the 1960s the death of God was predicted with confidence and it was believed that religion would soon follow Him to the grave. Church of England bishops were among the first to say the last rites for the Deity.

What the late liberal bishops did not believe, and what the secularists never knew, was that in a Christian country a religious death is generally succeeded by resurrection.

But even the most devout would not have prophesied what we see today, with religion on the front page of almost every newspaper and heading broadcast news bulletins.

Until recently, bishops of the Church of England in particular perceived their role as one of managing a decline. Their job was to help their dwindling flock to come to terms with their impending status as a minority in a country that was overwhelmingly secular.

Then came the 2001 Census and the incontrovertible statistic that 72 per cent of people in Britain considered themselves to be Christian. We could almost hear them asking: "Who are all these people and, more importantly, where are they?"

Nevertheless, church leaders began to speak with a new confidence.

Victories chalked up since then include defeating the move to impose a non-religious pupil quota on faith schools, scuppering the proposed religious hatred legislation and, most recently, getting British Airways to back down over its ban on the Christian cross being displayed as jewellery. But there are dangers ahead; power being the most perilous of these. It was power that Jesus resisted when he turned from Satan in the wilderness.

The right-wing blogosphere in the US contains a taste of what awaits a society fuelled by untramelled religious self-righteousness.

With rampant homophobia almost the new anti-Semitism, and Islamophobia following close behind, there are understandable fears among some of Britain's minorities.

However, persecuted by secularist fundamentalists such as Richard Dawkins, and terrorised by extremist manifestations of Islam such as 9/11, the churches have indeed become stronger in Britain.

The trouble for religion is that the same phenomenon applies to those its own leaders choose to persecute. It is significant that the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, the new hero of the right-wing anti-secularism brigade, has demurred from challenging the Sexual Orientation Regulations.

As Christmas approaches, bishops would do well to focus on the traditional Christian virtues of faith, hope and charity. The greatest of these, said St Paul, is charity, or love.

It is also worth remembering that Jesus commanded us to love our neighbours. And that means loving them, whether they are gay, Muslim or even Richard Dawkins.

Let's face it, if the churches had been better at preaching this all along, British Airways would have known that banning crosses, while permitting headscarves and turbans, ran counter to the message of the Cross it flies proudly on the tailfin of every aircraft.

(c) Times Newspapers Ltd, 2006

[Mordac]

Young people running in their thousands in the UK to do an Alpha Course
Go to the Dominion Theatre in London on every Sunday, rammed at Hillsong

Not only have the young turned away from the lies of athiesm, the immigrants, Poles, the Africans are leading revivals, churches that lay dormant, are now standing room only. Dawkins and his ilk are like cornered rats - out of ideas, out of hope, out of here. Once again our universities are at the forefront of faith, student societies are standing firm for Jesus, the evil that is evolution, finally being challenged in our schools. Yes Britain is now a post atheist country and the rantings and of the self styled atheists is not going to change that.

I agree our universities are at the forefront of faith, but if you believe that faith is Christianity, you really need to get out more. And if you seriously believe evolutionist theory is "evil", there's no hope of ever having a reasoned discussion with you on this (or in fact any other) subject. It was fun while it lasted Chico, but you've clearly been brainwashed, so there's no real point in carrying this on.