Reply to: My Diet

[Lost It]

That's bollocks as heart rate is partially genetically determined. I have a lower heart rate than lots of my mates regardless of the times I'm fitter than them or not. In other words I have a lower resting heart rate but lower maximum heart rate.

Hmmm. I'm 61, have a resting heart rate of 52, a "full on" rate of 178, a BP of 110/70, and apparently the way it works is that it takes some level between your resting and max rate and decides that you must be douing excercise. So you are probably right.

[mattfx]

If I do any amount of sustained cardio I want to eat like a horse for days - interval training doesn't get me quite so bad which is strange.

[SueEllen]

Exercise tends to act as an appetite suppressant for me. I believe I tend towards hypoglycaemia so it might in fact be that exercise releases chemicals which counter that?

After weights/resistance training I get hungry after intervals/cardio I'm not.

However after the latter if I don't eat I get light headed and/or very cold so I eat anyway.

Oh and the hormone responsible is gherlin that gets suppressed with certain exercises.

[d000hg]

Exercise tends to act as an appetite suppressant for me. I believe I tend towards hypoglycaemia so it might in fact be that exercise releases chemicals which counter that?

[Jog On]

I tend to eat after exercising.

In the past I have pushed myself until I've thrown up so it is safer to eat afterwards. Plus if I'm doing a 6.30am class feck if I'm going to get up in time to eat first.

Also there was some research - which I thought it was quite bad - that stated men did better eating after exercise, but it was the other way round for women.

This - I go to the gym at 6-7 now as I've given up going after work as Southern rail always find a way to shaft me on the way home so I never get long enough in the gym. So I'm not getting up at 5 just to have breakfast...

Leangains is the IF programme people are raving about, seems to have lots of satisfied users. Will give it a look

[SueEllen]

I exercise while hungry in the morning now and don't have anything to eat until after.

I tend to eat after exercising.

In the past I have pushed myself until I've thrown up so it is safer to eat afterwards. Plus if I'm doing a 6.30am class feck if I'm going to get up in time to eat first.

Also there was some research - which I thought it was quite bad - that stated men did better eating after exercise, but it was the other way round for women.

[Jog On]

Neither am I as I get hungry in the morning and also frequently exercise in the morning.

I exercise while hungry in the morning now and don't have anything to eat until after. Not going full intermittent fasting but will if necessary next cut. I will see my abs dammit - can see the side ones and get into Tailor fit shirts now but the last little bit of belly is very stubborn and will probably require intermittent fasting + fasted training come April.

[SueEllen]

My missus bought me a Fitbit. Apparently it measures heart rate and decides how much excercise you are getting based on that.

That's bollocks as heart rate is partially genetically determined. I have a lower heart rate than lots of my mates regardless of the times I'm fitter than them or not. In other words I have a lower resting heart rate but lower maximum heart rate.

[SueEllen]

I can't say I'm impressed with diets that have you skipping food until noon.

Neither am I as I get hungry in the morning and also frequently exercise in the morning.

[Lost It]

My missus bought me a Fitbit. Apparently it measures heart rate and decides how much excercise you are getting based on that.

For some reason it thinks me using a Motorbike for my commute burns as much energy as walking up about 160 flights of stairs... No wonder I'm knackered...

It means I've lost a couple of kilo's though.

[d000hg]

I can't say I'm impressed with diets that have you skipping food until noon.

[FrontEnder]

Starting Strength is a great program and those are good numbers . Good call on dropping the weight on the deadlift if you felt your form starting to go.

Yeah, I was doing stronglifts 5x5 before that, but after looking into it, starting strength is really THE beginner programme. Been doing power cleans for a few weeks now, they're a lot of fun, but exhausting at the same time. I really want to start doing chin-ups but I'm too fat and my upper body strength just isn't there yet.

[MyUserName]

Do you lift JogOn? If so where are your main lifts at?

I've been doing starting strength for a while now. I'll squat 120kg tomorrow ( I weigh 110kg) which seems like a bit of a milestone, putting 2 big 25kg plates on each end. Deadlift was 135kg, but I de-loaded to 125 because I felt my form wasn't right.

Starting Strength is a great program and those are good numbers . Good call on dropping the weight on the deadlift if you felt your form starting to go.

[FrontEnder]

Nice. I need to cut some fat, but want to make the most of linear progression/newbie gains, so I haven't been too strict with diet. Stayed a consistent weight, but put on a pound or 2 recently.

I need to see a PT too to check on my form. I also can't bench press. I keep getting a pain in my left shoulder which I'm pretty sure is impingement. Gave up on benching after hurting it and then having to stop upper body lifts until the pain goes away a couple of times. Upper body is way behind as a result, I do OH press (string, no knee drive) every workout now and that's up to 47.5kg.

[Jog On]

Do you lift JogOn? If so where are your main lifts at?

I've been doing starting strength for a while now. I'll squat 120kg tomorrow ( I weigh 110kg) which seems like a bit of a milestone, putting 2 big 25kg plates on each end. Deadlift was 135kg, but I de-loaded to 125 because I felt my form wasn't right.

At 80 KG now I'm doing:

Squat - 80KG
Deadlift - 95KG
Flat bench - 75KG

That's on calorie deficit of 20-25%. I'm soon going to have a week of much lighter lifts to get my form right, also got some sessions booked with a PT just to be sure. I do Romanian deadlifts and bent over rows as well which are potential back killers if done wrong.