Reply to: Those religious people again...

[ladymuck]

It's nothing to do with being trendy it's because there isn't a good reason for telling a little boy he can't wear a skirt or dress.

As far as kids who haven't reached puberty, especially little ones, are concerned there isn't any difference between a boy and a girl so if they want to wear something whether it is a skirt, nail varnish, ballet shoes with spots on it that look like giraffes or a fairy dress then they let them. Boys tend to grow out of wanting to wear skirts and dresses by around 7 anyway.

In regards to whether this little boy is really transgender only time will tell....

That really wasn't the point I was making. I was picking on parents who will dress their children a certain way to make a point (hence my use of "actively") as opposed to simply allowing their kids to wear what they feel comfortable in.

[SueEllen]

I think it was in response to some school saying girls couldn't wear skirts and everyone had to wear trousers. My idea of gender neutral is to offer a range of clothing guidelines and say "take your pick", there is no need to be prescriptive. However, that won't help against the trendy parents who actively dress their children in clothes commonly associated with the opposite sex.

It's nothing to do with being trendy it's because there isn't a good reason for telling a little boy he can't wear a skirt or dress.

As far as kids who haven't reached puberty, especially little ones, are concerned there isn't any difference between a boy and a girl so if they want to wear something whether it is a skirt, nail varnish, ballet shoes with spots on it that look like giraffes or a fairy dress then they let them. Boys tend to grow out of wanting to wear skirts and dresses by around 7 anyway.

In regards to whether this little boy is really transgender only time will tell....

[mudskipper]

I think it was in response to some school saying girls couldn't wear skirts and everyone had to wear trousers. My idea of gender neutral is to offer a range of clothing guidelines and say "take your pick", there is no need to be prescriptive. However, that won't help against the trendy parents who actively dress their children in clothes commonly associated with the opposite sex.

I seem to recall that all children, up to maybe 5 or 6, were put in dresses back in days gone by. Practical as it's easier to mop after they have an accident.

In History: Why little boys wore dresses | Life & Times | heraldbulletin.com

[SueEllen]

I suspect that this is a transgender issue, not the religion.

It was the parents interpretation of the religion that is at odds with the school's.

[ladymuck]

I like the idea of a gender neutral uniform. Up to puberty, it shouldn't make the blindest bit of difference whether kids are boys or girls.

I think it was in response to some school saying girls couldn't wear skirts and everyone had to wear trousers. My idea of gender neutral is to offer a range of clothing guidelines and say "take your pick", there is no need to be prescriptive. However, that won't help against the trendy parents who actively dress their children in clothes commonly associated with the opposite sex.

I seem to recall that all children, up to maybe 5 or 6, were put in dresses back in days gone by. Practical as it's easier to mop after they have an accident.

[Bee]

This time it is Christian...

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Sun link

Daily Mail link

In short who gives a feck?

Oh the religious idiots don't realise that the CofE churches and so attached schools can be very liberal or very conservative. If they don't like the liberal view of the bible then go to a different CofE school.

I suspect that this is a transgender issue, not the religion.

[northernladyuk]

Well all "them" Muslims are the same....

They are the alt-right fascists' Eternal Jew for the 21st century. Once they have been demonized and had a dash of collective guilt applied, the rape and murder is historically justified.

[SueEllen]

As long as Muslims are being raped, murdered and dispossessed, they are happy whatever the reason.

Well all "them" Muslims are the same....

[northernladyuk]

What has caused the current situation is the 1982 citizenship law. But that doesn't suit what you want to hear.

As long as Muslims are being raped, murdered and dispossessed, they are happy whatever the reason.

[WTFH]

Save your breath.

There is little interest in what has caused the current situation.

just that they can now wail over how everyone is really nasty and should be nice

from the comfort of their ivory tower.

What has caused the current situation is the 1982 citizenship law. But that doesn't suit what you want to hear.

[SueEllen]

I'm sorry I must have missed the bit where Jews and Tutsi were tearing around the world looking for global conquest and have been doing so continuously since the 620s.

Just because Germans and Belgians where xenophobic pricks does not negate anyone's legitimate concerns about islam and it's intentions.

I told you to ask the Germans not the Jews. The former wanted world domination.

[excon]

Ask the Germans.

Though you maybe better asking Bosians/Kosovans or Rwandas as they are younger and more likely to engage with you about their conflict. The Serbs are likely to complain about the US, UK etc stopping them getting "rid" of people but that maybe just the ones I talked to.

I'm sorry I must have missed the bit where Jews and Tutsi were tearing around the world looking for global conquest and have been doing so continuously since the 620s.

Just because Germans and Belgians where xenophobic pricks does not negate anyone's legitimate concerns about islam and it's intentions.

[original PM]

Ethnic cleansing or act of self preservation? You seem to have little idea about what islam is or how it operates. For examples look to the formally Buddhist country of Afghanistan and formally Christian country of Lebanon.

Ask your average Sikh about their history and interaction with muslims.

Save your breath.

There is little interest in what has caused the current situation.

just that they can now wail over how everyone is really nasty and should be nice

from the comfort of their ivory tower.

[SueEllen]

Ethnic cleansing or act of self preservation? You seem to have little idea about what islam is or how it operates. For examples look to the formally Buddhist country of Afghanistan and formally Christian country of Lebanon.

Ask your average Sikh about their history and interaction with muslims.

Ask the Germans.

Though you maybe better asking Bosians/Kosovans or Rwandas as they are younger and more likely to engage with you about their conflict. The Serbs are likely to complain about the US, UK etc stopping them getting "rid" of people but that maybe just the ones I talked to.

[northernladyuk]

You reckon?

Only one major religion has a stated goal of global domination, they even started a country a while back for that very purpose you might have heard of them?

Are you often confused by sets and subsets?