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Previously on "Place yer bets looks like a second referendum is coming"

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  • stek
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    Well you can, going forward, and TBH no reason I can see why not back....

    From INIS website

    Future generations

    You can safeguard the Irish citizenship of future generations by ensuring each generation continues to register in the Foreign Births Register before the birth of the next generation, ie your children (if any) must register so their children can register, etc.
    Let's call it draw, your arm's off.....

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  • JozefBlofeld
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    It's not.

    Here's a link:
    https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizen...p/born-abroad/
    This states that you can become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, as long as you register on the FBR
    It IS wrong. He said......

    That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....
    You CANNOT go 3 generations or more back the way. It is parent or grandparent

    https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizen...p/born-abroad/

    Born outside Ireland?

    You are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland.

    You can become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, or you can become an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, but was not born in Ireland. If you’re eligible, you can register your birth on the Foreign Births Register.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by JozefBlofeld View Post
    Nope. This is plain wrong ! See dfa.ie for the proper analysis.
    It's not.

    Here's a link:
    https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizen...p/born-abroad/
    This states that you can become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, as long as you register on the FBR

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  • JozefBlofeld
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....
    Nope. This is plain wrong ! See dfa.ie for the proper analysis.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Tis a shame, but you are correct. Still best warn your fellow country folk what their friends in the 'north' are like.
    They have a pretty good idea for the most part.

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    No such thing as former as you well know.
    Amiens Street?

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...
    No such thing as former as you well know.

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  • The_Equalizer
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Poor equalizer lives in a sectarian hell hole.
    Tis a shame, but you are correct. Still best warn your fellow country folk what their friends in the 'north' are like.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...
    Poor equalizer lives in a sectarian hell hole.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....
    Marriage to a Paddy. If you were married before Nov 2002 they gave you citizenship wherever you were in the world. They shut that loophole in 2005, I think.

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Just did. They agree it is fine to be both.
    Same here east of Connolly, plenty of Derry boys too, and they’re the former up the ra types...

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Technically it's possible but, you'll find that being British/Irish is normally considered mutually exclusive. As I've suggested before, try taking a straw poll in you local to see how many agree that you're both.
    Just did. They agree it is fine to be both.

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    I don't recall having to do any of that. Mind you, that was over ten years ago when you could get Irish citizenship without all that "residency" kerfuffle...
    That would be an Irish grandparent or further back if entered in FBR....

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  • worzelGummidge
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Point is largely moot, my opinion is that after all this, all EU states will implement freedom of movement to visitors only, with auto-work permits (like Switzerland do now) for the deemed skilled, and settlement rights in line with non-EU nationals.

    It's already happening, CH above, NL and FR making it difficult without local language, there's just too many flocking to the latest what's-hot state for whatever scraps they can pick up, too much watering down of local culture, and too many citizenship pimps in it for cream...

    One thing is for sure though, rates will have to shoot up in Dublin, there's no more places to live left......

    I'm a Bremainer but it's wasted on thick people so they should stay where they were born!
    Interesting opinion reference the Freedom of movement.

    I can't see it myself because it is one of the sacred things of the EU, but......
    I can see some some states having issues with it (Northern countries), so maybe a two tier system.
    Don't know.

    Dublin rates.. Yes I know.
    EU rates always used to be less than the UK, but now, about the same.
    It's the rates over time though, like the economy or GDP.
    A small difference adds up.

    What made me suddenly think is the IFS outlook until 2030 and then then this piece:
    https://www.ft.com/content/dc402d22-...bb7f0#comments

    https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8296

    ..."suddenly, by 2035, the Germans and French will not only be richer but look richer.."

    It's the same logic as lowering fees on your private pension and yet making the same investments, or paying off your mortgage early.

    Then the realisation that Google see Europe as Berlin and Frankfurt now and not London.

    It's not nice and a real shame.

    But just planning for that.

    However, yes, your right about Dublin rents, however it's tech, hoover up the budget.

    On another related theme, Germany has a plan for IoT and AI and is now using it.
    The UK government is still planning their meetings to decide the plan.

    .

    On the plus side, I know two referendum voters who have switched to remain.
    So more of those needed ready for the next vote.
    Last edited by worzelGummidge; 8 September 2017, 15:15.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    No, and for many there's no requirement to do all the stuff the Eq said.
    I don't recall having to do any of that. Mind you, that was over ten years ago when you could get Irish citizenship without all that "residency" kerfuffle...

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