Reply to: Poles versus Brits

[northernladyuk]

Nope.

It's simply bad manners and bad business.

[sasguru]

Had they not phoned to advise they were running behind schedule?

Nope.

[northernladyuk]

I know you're all dying for an update.
Well the guys turned up in the end. Turned out to be Polish employees from the British firm.
When I asked why they were late they said they weren't scheduled on this job originally, but the team who were had a couple of members who called in sick. I didn't ask if that team was English, but I bet they are

Had they not phoned to advise they were running behind schedule?

[sasguru]

I know you're all dying for an update.
Well the guys turned up in the end. Turned out to be Polish employees from the British firm.
When I asked why they were late they said they weren't scheduled on this job originally, but the team who were had a couple of members who called in sick. I didn't ask if that team was English, but I bet they are

[northernladyuk]

You're in funny form today.

Trying to avoid finishing a document before my hols.

[The_Equalizer]

It's called 'DIY', even on here.

You're in funny form today.

[northernladyuk]

Just not on here.

It's called 'DIY', even on here.

[The_Equalizer]

Yes they do. It's called 'DIY'.

Just not on here.

[northernladyuk]

I was asking if anyone did it, not what it was called.

Yes they do. It's called 'DIY'.

[Troll]

Doesn't anyone do some of this themselves?

Deffo... beats paying some dodgy Eastern Europeans

[The_Equalizer]

It's called 'DIY'.

I was asking if anyone did it, not what it was called.

[northernladyuk]

Doesn't anyone do some of this themselves?

It's called 'DIY'.

[The_Equalizer]

Doesn't anyone do some of this themselves?

[Maslins]

Young Brits are eager to learn a trade due to the few jobs around for them.

I've spoken to people who run companies in the trades and they've said that they actually go through a lot of young Brits to get and keep the keen ones. On the other hand foreigners are keen regardless of their age.

We recently had some work done on our home. One day in addition to the normal carpenters, there was one of our neighbours (who I didn't know very well but recognised, guessing he must be 17ish). Chatted a bit, and he's doing an apprenticeship in the local college, with practical work experience with these guys. Great I thought.

A couple of weeks later, I hadn't seen him again, and asked the main guys how it was going. Was gutted to hear them say he shows no interest when he's there, virtually never shows up, and when they call him he doesn't answer, just texts much later that day saying he didn't think he was working that day. It had evidently happened enough times that they were convinced it wasn't a genuine mistake.

A real shame, as he's a nice kid, and at least superficially it seemed a good opportunity. Unfortunately it seems there's zero work ethic, just wants to hang around with his mates. I'm unsure how much of this his mother knows...!

Obviously that's just one anecdotal example, but I imagine there are many more like it. Like you say Sue Ellen, I'm sure if as a firm you give enough a chance, a few will be brill and make it worthwhile.

[Fronttoback]

I've found British tradesmen tulip if they aren't young or don't work for themselves.

Young Brits are eager to learn a trade due to the few jobs around for them.

I've spoken to people who run companies in the trades and they've said that they actually go through a lot of young Brits to get and keep the keen ones. On the other hand foreigners are keen regardless of their age.

That's true, it's very hard for them to enter the game.

It was easy for me to enter my profession. But I'm not a tradesman.

Are you a tradesman? How was your tradesmans entrance?