Reply to: Plz can vee zee your paperz

[stek]

The same, but a burly customs officer will give you an internal exam to verify your identity.

But under the terms of the CTA British and Irish citizens are not subject to immigration and customs control.

And as HMG is committed to keeping the CTA....

Big hole. In border. What we control..

[VectraMan]

Flew from Dublin to Gatwick last night without my passport as a challenge. Easy, used my Irish Driving licence no questions asked at all.

So what happens there on Brexit and 'controlling our borders'?

The same, but a burly customs officer will give you an internal exam to verify your identity.

[AtW]

Flew from Dublin to Gatwick last night without my passport as a challenge. Easy, used my Irish Driving licence no questions asked at all. So what happens there on Brexit and 'controlling our borders'?

After Brexit you'll have to present your passport before having to walk from Gatwick to Dublin.

HTH

[stek]

Flew from Dublin to Gatwick last night without my passport as a challenge. Easy, used my Irish Driving licence no questions asked at all.

So what happens there on Brexit and 'controlling our borders'?

[Lambert Simnel]

If you seriously think there is any real border control on mainland Europe you are nuts.

The main challenge with being in the EU was that people would come to the UK as an EU citizen - and then just stay and expect to be fed and housed.

It is easy to walk from Germany to France.

You cannot walk from UK to mainland Europe.

I was just trying to understand what vetran was telling us about the close inspection of papers in the EU. From what you now say, it sounds like he might have exaggerating for effect

[SueEllen]

You can use the service tunnel and walk all the way through in theory.

I'm in favour of civil liberties, but I never quite understood the fuss about ID cards. As said I pretty much always have my drivers licence anyway. If a policeman randomly stopped me and asked for ID I wouldn't make a big fuss about state oppression, I'd just show him my ID and be on my way.

But fairly obviously, immigrants having ID cards only really works if everyone has ID cards.

It's to do with stuff after WWII

[SueEllen]

If there are no trains going you can. Or you can hang underneath one.

You would definitely die on the UK side so I wouldn't.

[VectraMan]

You can but you may be flattened by a train if they don't find you in time.

You can use the service tunnel and walk all the way through in theory.

I'm in favour of civil liberties, but I never quite understood the fuss about ID cards. As said I pretty much always have my drivers licence anyway. If a policeman randomly stopped me and asked for ID I wouldn't make a big fuss about state oppression, I'd just show him my ID and be on my way.

But fairly obviously, immigrants having ID cards only really works if everyone has ID cards.

[BrilloPad]

You cannot walk from UK to mainland Europe.

If there are no trains going you can. Or you can hang underneath one.

[SueEllen]

If you seriously think there is any real border control on mainland Europe you are nuts.

The main challenge with being in the EU was that people would come to the UK as an EU citizen - and then just stay and expect to be fed and housed.

I wonder which person who was the last Home Secretary who hadn't heard of Directive 2004/38/EC?

It is easy to walk from Germany to France.

You cannot walk from UK to mainland Europe.

You can but you may be flattened by a train if they don't find you in time.

[original PM]

Are you trying to highlight that it's quite possible to maintain control of your borders while staying within the EU? Good to hear.

If you seriously think there is any real border control on mainland Europe you are nuts.

The main challenge with being in the EU was that people would come to the UK as an EU citizen - and then just stay and expect to be fed and housed.

It is easy to walk from Germany to France.

You cannot walk from UK to mainland Europe.

[Lambert Simnel]

we have ways of looking at your papers

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/germany



https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F31208

oh dear its normal in the fabulous EU.

Are you trying to highlight that it's quite possible to maintain control of your borders while staying within the EU? Good to hear.

[vetran]

Yes Brexit britain is becoming a right wing Police state.unlike the EU

we have ways of looking at your papers

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/germany

There’s no requirement to carry your passport with you, but the police are currently carrying out more frequent ID checks. If you’re asked to show your passport and you don’t have it with you, the police may escort you to wherever your passport is being kept so that you can show it to them.

Border controls have been reintroduced at some crossing points between Germany and Austria, Denmark and Sweden. Carry your passport with you and be aware of potential delays.

https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F31208

oh dear its normal in the fabulous EU.

[PurpleGorilla]

He fell far from the tree!

[Mordac]

Well generally I have my drivers licence on me....

Which is actually a bad idea but yeah I normally have something which identifies me as me.

But then I have nothing to hide.....

That's not very British, we all have something to hide...