Reply to: EU prepares to move two agencies from London

[Lost It]

Not sure if I read it on here, but if the EU doesn't do a recprocating agreement, when these "4m" or so EU citizens reach the stage where they need new hips, hospital treatment etc, who pays for that?

Presumably they are working over here, so are paying into the system, and not their home countries system, which is where the difficulties lie. So that needs to be dealt with, if you work here, you pay into the UK system of NI and Tax. Or will the UK be billing the EU for the costs of looking after EU citizens because they decided to not agree a reciprocal arrangement?

That would cost the EU potentially billions.

[darmstadt]

Indeed - Darmy hasn't heard of "sub-letting".
As for "coming home, most of the 1 million "over there" are financially independent (property-owning retirees etc), so don't care about benefit rights. The people I know who have property in Europe don't think Brexit will make much difference - it all depends on how vindictive the EU decides to be, though. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Indeed, Mordy hasn't done his research....

[Mordac]

Yawn. It's not the EU being vindictive, it's the UK government not offering to look after its own citizens abroad. Teresa May could quite easily say that she will guarantee to pay for all current and future pensions, hospital treatment, etc for all UK citizens in Europe.

But she won't, because you're simply making it up about most of them being financially independent. I've seen the documentary "Benidorm", most of them are slackers, crims on the run, or old people with gammy hips that sponge off the state and expect something for nothing.

Not seen it myself, but a few people in a sit-com, or reality show or whatever, is hardly representative of the whole. Look at Darmy & Scooty, for example. If either of them has a gammy hip, they've done well not to mention it.

[meridian]

Indeed - Darmy hasn't heard of "sub-letting".
As for "coming home, most of the 1 million "over there" are financially independent (property-owning retirees etc), so don't care about benefit rights. The people I know who have property in Europe don't think Brexit will make much difference - it all depends on how vindictive the EU decides to be, though. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Yawn. It's not the EU being vindictive, it's the UK government not offering to look after its own citizens abroad. Teresa May could quite easily say that she will guarantee to pay for all current and future pensions, hospital treatment, etc for all UK citizens in Europe.

But she won't, because you're simply making it up about most of them being financially independent. I've seen the documentary "Benidorm", most of them are slackers, crims on the run, or old people with gammy hips that sponge off the state and expect something for nothing.

[Mordac]

So if we "Mirror image" the requirements, it effects the EU just as much. Erm. What's the issue again?

That building can and will be put to other use. Those workers can and will get other work. There's plenty out there. And as it appears the EU don't wish to reciprocate the situation where EU citizens can stay over here as long as UK citizens get the same rights in the EU area, there's potentially 4 million people going "home" and 1 million coming home. That's lots of empty houses, and lots of work spaces to fill.

All good where I'm sitting.

Indeed - Darmy hasn't heard of "sub-letting".
As for "coming home, most of the 1 million "over there" are financially independent (property-owning retirees etc), so don't care about benefit rights. The people I know who have property in Europe don't think Brexit will make much difference - it all depends on how vindictive the EU decides to be, though. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Lost It]

There are a couple of other points not reported by the media about the EMA moving. Part of the agreement that the UK has with the EU to have the EMA in the UK was that the UK would underwrite the lease on their building which means that when they move, the UK have to pay the owners of the lease the balance. The building is leased until 2039 and so it looks like that the taxpayer will be paying in the region of 300m in order to get rid of an agency that the Brexiters no longer want!

Secondly, it is not just the staff working in the EMA that will have to move or leave but each company that wants to sell drugs in the EU requires a person responsible for certain activities and that person tends to have a team. The problem here, is that this responsible person has to be in an EU country, you can see where this is going can't you? Oh dear...

So if we "Mirror image" the requirements, it effects the EU just as much. Erm. What's the issue again?

That building can and will be put to other use. Those workers can and will get other work. There's plenty out there. And as it appears the EU don't wish to reciprocate the situation where EU citizens can stay over here as long as UK citizens get the same rights in the EU area, there's potentially 4 million people going "home" and 1 million coming home. That's lots of empty houses, and lots of work spaces to fill.

All good where I'm sitting.

[darmstadt]

There are a couple of other points not reported by the media about the EMA moving. Part of the agreement that the UK has with the EU to have the EMA in the UK was that the UK would underwrite the lease on their building which means that when they move, the UK have to pay the owners of the lease the balance. The building is leased until 2039 and so it looks like that the taxpayer will be paying in the region of 300m in order to get rid of an agency that the Brexiters no longer want!

Secondly, it is not just the staff working in the EMA that will have to move or leave but each company that wants to sell drugs in the EU requires a person responsible for certain activities and that person tends to have a team. The problem here, is that this responsible person has to be in an EU country, you can see where this is going can't you? Oh dear...

[vetran]

Alas I dont think getting your thumbs stuck in your arse counts as a serous accident

was he trying to get his head out?

[The_Equalizer]

Spending their hard earned in the UK.

Or sending it back to the motherland?

[northernladyuk]

He should never have visited NLyUK....

[northernladyuk]

Lots of people at the European Medicines Agency doing the grunt work are non-EU citizens.

Spending their hard earned in the UK.

[BrilloPad]

Alas I dont think getting your thumbs stuck in your arse counts as a serous accident

He should never have visited NLyUK....

[scooterscot]

I hope it was serious and prevents you from posting.

Yes that serious. Did you realise 34.454354352, yes that number the one you just read has a letter in it?

Actually no not really but made you'll never get those 20 seconds back.

[bobspud]

I hope it was serious and prevents you from posting.

Alas I dont think getting your thumbs stuck in your arse counts as a serous accident

[BrilloPad]

Grunt work? Like the phone call I just had... "We're calling you about the accident you had."

I hope it was serious and prevents you from posting.