Reply to: London Tower Block Inferno

[SueEllen]

And Grenfell Tower was in the US?

Perhaps the question should be why they were not made illegal in the UK? Maybe spending too much time on all that EU paperwork?

I remember when toughened glass was illegal in all civilized countries apart from the UK. I think we were part of the EU then too.

Banks not insist of tons of paperwork. It has not changed the morality one iota.

Nothing to do with the EU at all. It is a complete failure of UK governments from Blair.

We had stronger laws in some things before the EU got involved and made them part of a directive e.g. Health and Safety At Work Act 1974.

[BrilloPad]

No, just banned from multi storey buildings in the US, according to the US manufacturer. They are being sold for use on 1-2 floor buildings, where their combustibility is not that dangerous. Horses for courses.

And Grenfell Tower was in the US?

Perhaps the question should be why they were not made illegal in the UK? Maybe spending too much time on all that EU paperwork?

I remember when toughened glass was illegal in all civilized countries apart from the UK. I think we were part of the EU then too.

Banks not insist of tons of paperwork. It has not changed the morality one iota.

[sal]

Are plastic-filled panels illegal?

No, just banned from multi storey buildings in the US, according to the US manufacturer. They are being sold for use on 1-2 floor buildings, where their combustibility is not that dangerous. Horses for courses.

[northernladyuk]

Are plastic-filled panels illegal?

Let's find out.

[BrilloPad]

Non-combustible concrete panels were fitted to the base of the building’s concrete columns, while plastic-filled panels, described by industry sources as about twice as cheap, were used for the upper floors of the building, planning documents reveal.

Are plastic-filled panels illegal?

[vetran]

Oh dear what a feck up - linky

oh goody someone is off to spend time with Bubba.

[SueEllen]

Oh dear what a feck up - linky

The architects of the Grenfell Tower refurbishment, completed in 2016, specified cladding that did not burn but that material was used only on the ground floor, where nobody in the block lived.

Non-combustible concrete panels were fitted to the base of the building’s concrete columns, while plastic-filled panels, described by industry sources as about twice as cheap, were used for the upper floors of the building, planning documents reveal.

[vetran]

Its spread to the NHS and the fire alarm system is suspect

Three NHS trusts fail cladding tests after Grenfell fire | Daily Mail Online

Three major NHS trusts - including one children's hospital- FAIL fire safety tests as fraud squad probes claims Grenfell Tower alarm firm installed faulty equipment in HUNDREDS of properties
Three hospitals are among the public buildings to have failed fire safety tests
Cladding is being removed from three hospital buildings over concerns
Government reveals cladding on 190 high-rise blocks is combustible
Grenfell fire alarm testing firm is being investigated in separate probe

[SueEllen]

I am still unclear who or what is guilty here. Though SueEllen has already made up her mind and is out buying pitchforks.

I keep seeing things like this - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...y_to_clipboard

Which shows councils of all political colours are the same.

And no I'm not out buying pitch forks.

[vetran]

I am still unclear who or what is guilty here. Though SueEllen has already made up her mind and is out buying pitchforks.

precisely.

[BrilloPad]

Precisely, I want a logical analysis, the guilty to be punished & for it not to happen again.

The residents and JezzyBull etc. want to punish 'them that oppress us'.

I am still unclear who or what is guilty here. Though SueEllen has already made up her mind and is out buying pitchforks.

[vetran]

The residents want a lynch mob.

Precisely, I want a logical analysis, the guilty to be punished & for it not to happen again.

The residents and JezzyBull etc. want to punish 'them that oppress us'.

[BrilloPad]

the residents want compensation......

$$$$$$

They want $ ? I suppose the £ is stuffed.....

[original PM]

The residents want a lynch mob.

Is that you, Theresa?

the residents want compensation......

$$$$$$

[BrilloPad]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

Almost 3 in 10 think austerity contributed to so many dying at Grenfell Tower, poll suggests

But then 3 in 10 think they have a Guardian Angel