Reply to: DUP & IR35

[ContractorOnAMotorbike]

Agree that they had to do a deal to stay alive. But in my view it was sheer arrogance on May's part that has put the Tories in this mess.

A manifesto although shouldnt be as extreme as Corbyn's but should at least offer something to their core voters. This one went out of the way to attack the elderly, children and animals

I was going to vote for them until they spoke (with pride) about taking primary school lunches away and the witch spoke about how she supported fox hunting at which point i thought "who are these lunatics?"

[Dark Black]

Couldn't agree more. After all the fear mongering and speaking in catch phrases she has done a deal with whoever would keep her in power. So much for strong and stable.

To be fair though, what else could they (the Tories) do? Another election any time soon would likely be a disaster and end up with Grandad Corbyn in control.

May's days are numbered, at least this way they have a chance to regroup and move on... Admittedly it's going to take nothing short of some miracle work with the policies and a leader with superstar charisma (does such a person exist in politics...?) to repair the damage she's caused to the party.

[ContractorOnAMotorbike]

The Tories going into coalition with the DUP will make the Conservatives unelectable at the next election, whenever that is. And you can be sure May wont be at the helm whenever it happens.

The whole Tory mantra of 'Vote Labour, Get SNP' - well, I'd rather the SNP to be honest, and they've created their own 'Vote Tory, get DUP' slogan. May has actually managed to create THE definition of 'coalition of chaos'.

Couldn't agree more. After all the fear mongering and speaking in catch phrases she has done a deal with whoever would keep her in power. So much for strong and stable.

[NotAllThere]

The government is paralysed and will be able to do nothing other than present an unfulfillable wish list to the EU negotiators and possibly walk out of the negotiations to garner some anti EU support.

Yes. The government will act in its own interests - whatever they think it takes to make sure they're still the government after the next GE. Stuff the interests of the country - it's all about politicians retaining power.

[Paddy]

I predicted she'd get 315 seats.

The momentum behind Corbyn was something I've never seen in the UK.

Harold Wilson, "I'm backing Briton".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjTyFeAslpE

[SueEllen]

What about 1997?

In 1997 people were fed up of the Tories.

This election people were just fed up of elections because the elite wanted the British people to do their bidding.

[AtW]

I think it's the speed of the swell. Like bacteria growth, exponential.

And who will be the penicillin?

[PurpleGorilla]

What about 1997?

I think it's the speed of the swell. Like bacteria growth, exponential.

[AtW]

The momentum behind Corbyn was something I've never seen in the UK.

What about 1997?

[PurpleGorilla]

The Tories going into coalition with the DUP will make the Conservatives unelectable at the next election, whenever that is. And you can be sure May wont be at the helm whenever it happens.

The whole Tory mantra of 'Vote Labour, Get SNP' - well, I'd rather the SNP to be honest, and they've created their own 'Vote Tory, get DUP' slogan. May has actually managed to create THE definition of 'coalition of chaos'.

Mayhem is being utterly foolish staying on. Despite the fact that at any other time, a 42.4% share of the vote is extremely credible, she matched Thatcher in 1983...



She didn't overestimate her own support, she got the lower end of the poll predictions. What she underestimated was how that support would be distributed (big constituency majorities are a waste of effort) and the polls never got close to predicting Corbyn's share of the vote.

However, the whole premise was to increase her majority (fail), strengthen her hand in Brexit (fail - look how she's handling the DUP), and create strong and stable government (fail) and for that reason she must go. Killing off UKIP, Lib Dems and weakening the SNP has kinda backfired.

I predicted she'd get 315 seats.

The momentum behind Corbyn was something I've never seen in the UK.

[AtW]

Killing off UKIP, Lib Dems and weakening the SNP has kinda backfired.

This - what would happen if some smaller parties are killed off? That helps Labour too!

[AtW]

She didn't overestimate her own support, she got the lower end of the poll predictions. What she underestimated was how that support would be distributed (big constituency majorities are a waste of effort) and the polls never got close to predicting Corbyn's share of the vote.

If only we had proportional representation system in this country...

[BrilloPad]

CT will be 10%. Expect for homosexuals when it will be 50%.

HTH

[AtW]

The Tories going into coalition with the DUP will make the Conservatives unelectable at the next election, whenever that is.

It was always clear that their next proper election (after Brexit) would result in massive landslide to Labour, which is why they gambled to get two extra years.

I am actually hoping they'll have some common sense not to rock the boat for 5 years, but with Brexit it's hard to see how that's possible, plus they are so incompetent that it beggars believe.

[chopper]

The Tories going into coalition with the DUP will make the Conservatives unelectable at the next election, whenever that is. And you can be sure May wont be at the helm whenever it happens.

The whole Tory mantra of 'Vote Labour, Get SNP' - well, I'd rather the SNP to be honest, and they've created their own 'Vote Tory, get DUP' slogan. May has actually managed to create THE definition of 'coalition of chaos'.

Mayhem is being utterly foolish staying on. Despite the fact that at any other time, a 42.4% share of the vote is extremely credible, she matched Thatcher in 1983...

2017 : Theresa May : 42.4% (317 seats)
2015 : David Cameron : 36.9% (330 seats)
2010 : David Cameron : 36.1% (306 seats)
2005 : Tony Blair : 35.2% (355 seats)
2001 : Tony Blair : 40.7% (413 seats)
1997 : Tony Blair : 43.2% (418 seats)
1992 : John Major : 41.9% (336 seats)
1987 : Thatcher : 42.2% (376 seats)
1983 : Thatcher : 42.4% (397 seats)
1979 : Thatcher : 43.9% (339 seats)

She didn't overestimate her own support, she got the lower end of the poll predictions. What she underestimated was how that support would be distributed (big constituency majorities are a waste of effort) and the polls never got close to predicting Corbyn's share of the vote.

However, the whole premise was to increase her majority (fail), strengthen her hand in Brexit (fail - look how she's handling the DUP), and create strong and stable government (fail) and for that reason she must go. Killing off UKIP, Lib Dems and weakening the SNP has kinda backfired.