Reply to: burqa in Poland

[SueEllen]

burqa should be compulsory for mingers
and hot shorts for lookers.
that will be an ideal world.

And ugly men like you should have to wear face masks...

[Andy2]

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[BrilloPad]

Don't get this obsession with the Muslim veil.

There are security concerns as some have said above, and there are occasions, like witnesses in court and interviews, where seeing the face is necessary but generally it's hardly that important in itself.

If it is an oppression of women, the Burqa is only a symptom. we need to address the causes.

A bit like terrorism, it needs the engagement of the Muslim community(though a major difference is that terrorists claim to be Muslim however are not). However if you suggest that, then Muslims say they are being blamed.

I am currently reading rage by Wilbur Smith. A story based on apartheid in South Africa. Muslim women are going to face a similar struggle and I wish them well.

[Mainframe gent]

Don't get this obsession with the Muslim veil.

There are security concerns as some have said above, and there are occasions, like witnesses in court and interviews, where seeing the face is necessary but generally it's hardly that important in itself.

If it is an oppression of women, the Burqa is only a symptom. we need to address the causes.

If we wont tolerate discrimination at work and just about everywhere else why would we tolerate permitting the wearing of a veil? If someone is wearing a veil they have chosen to be invisible to the rest of the world which means that they cannot a job or talk to anyone except those within their own family

[xoggoth]

Don't get this obsession with the Muslim veil.

There are security concerns as some have said above, and there are occasions, like witnesses in court and interviews, where seeing the face is necessary but generally it's hardly that important in itself.

If it is an oppression of women, the Burqa is only a symptom. we need to address the causes.

[Mainframe gent]

Thought the Polish historically had better principles than that....

Why should Poland tolerate suppression of women in public I wonder?

[diseasex]

Targets from syria ?

[Eirikur]

And?

All it shows is how backward Poland is.

There have been rich Arabs in London with wives, sisters, etc who have worn burqas as far as I can remember.

When my son was 3 and we were visiting London he asked why there are so many ninjas in London

[MrMarkyMark]

Why would any women want to wear that tulip if not for reasons of not being opressed, overly looked at by men reason?

My friend (really pretty blonde) is working in emirates now. She started to wear hijab just to stop annoying males stopping their cars all the time, trying to pick her, being looked at constantly up etc etc etc etc.

[SueEllen]

My friend (really pretty blonde) is working in emirates now. She started to wear hijab just to stop annoying males stopping their cars all the time, trying to pick her, being looked at constantly up etc etc etc etc.

I've heard similar from Kuwaiti women about Saudi men.

[Paddy]

the Burqa / Hijjab thing is a bit strange

I went to school in a 70% brown people school in the 90's, (mixture of Sikh / hindu / muslim kids)

I honestly can't remember one girl who wore a Hijjab, but in the last 10-15 years a lot of the muslim moms at my kids schools' and colleagues I work with of the same generation or younger, where a hijab

now I think people should be able to wear what they want and bans on clothing is ridiculous but I find it an interesting phenomenon that probably points to a negative trend when it comes to people choosing to integrate themselves (or not) with the wider society

Dead right, even around the 60s and 70s I had many muslim friends, all of them integrated an none of them with even a headscarf. However, the women in particular cover themselves, won't shake hands, want separate seating area and even a separate kitchen at client co.

[diseasex]

Since I actually know and have known women who choose to wear it themselves for some fecking reason not sure how it is men's fault in those cases especially men who have requested that their wife or daughter doesn't wear it.

Why would any women want to wear that tulip if not for reasons of not being opressed, overly looked at by men reason?

My friend (really pretty blonde) is working in emirates now. She started to wear hijab just to stop annoying males stopping their cars all the time, trying to pick her, being looked at constantly up etc etc etc etc.

[BrilloPad]

Since I actually know and have known women who choose to wear it themselves for some fecking reason not sure how it is men's fault in those cases especially men who have requested that their wife or daughter doesn't wear it.

Its always the mans fault.

FRom the "joke" thread. MEN. Make it impossible for your wife/girlfriend to tell when you've had a drink by talking tulipe all the time. I thought that was the assumption anyway.

[SueEllen]

Mrs BP thinks Muslims mistreat women making them wear black full clothes in the boiling hot while men get to wear white. Because the men can't keep their libido under control. She suggests men should be castrated or blinded(or in my case both).

Good to see the vast majority here subscribe to the Muslim view of repressing women. Well done folks. Keep it up


(I miss EO)

Since I actually know and have known women who choose to wear it themselves for some fecking reason not sure how it is men's fault in those cases especially men who have requested that their wife or daughter doesn't wear it.

[BrilloPad]

people choosing to integrate themselves (or not) with the wider society

The UK seems to be less welcoming of immigrants than before. It has nothing to do with the government blaming immigrants for their own shortcomings. No Sir.