Reply to: Barista visas

[squarepeg]

Other policies include marriage being made illegal....

If it's not compulsory why make it illegal? There are ways of having sex without getting married :-) Being nice to potential partners helps.

[WordIsBond]

We need to stop freedom of movement!!

As my bowels get older, I care more and more about freedom of movement.

Coffee often helps, whether the barista is British-born or not.

[squarepeg]

Freedom of non-movement you mean?

Are people in jobs really going to be kicked out after 2 years? Short of an army of media studies students retraining as Baristas, it's hard to see that happening.

People said Brexit wouldn't be happening... guess what happened? It's not like foreigners in this country have nothing to fear...

[BrilloPad]

While graduates spend 6 months looking for a job after graduating, they can all work in coffee shops!

Gosh this economic stuff is easy. Vote BP at the next election.

Other policies include marriage being made illegal....

[vetran]

It's pretty much at level where it can't be driven much lower.

The real problem is that a lot of "jobs" that were created in recent years are rather tulipy and can disappear very easily.

indeed.

[AtW]

Wait, low unemployment environment? I thought there were thousands of unemployed media studies students?

It's pretty much at level where it can't be driven much lower.

The real problem is that a lot of "jobs" that were created in recent years are rather tulipy and can disappear very easily.

[VectraMan]

Freedom of movement includes freedom to stay

Freedom of non-movement you mean?

Are people in jobs really going to be kicked out after 2 years? Short of an army of media studies students retraining as Baristas, it's hard to see that happening.

[oscarose]

dole is more enticing than working in a coffee shop?

Depends on the nature of the coffee shop

[meridian]

You are making a big assumption that in low unemployment environment many of those who stay on the dole are employable in the first place, nevermind offering lots of money for it.

Wait, low unemployment environment? I thought there were thousands of unemployed media studies students?

[billybiro]

avoid labour shortages .... following Brexit, such as the idea of “barista visas”.

Sheesh. The legal profession is stooping quite low these days.

[meridian]

And I voted brexit because I did not want a central european parliment.

Nobody knows exactly the myriad of reasons why all people voted Brexit, because it wasn't on the ballot paper.

Your sample of one is as valid as the sample of the bloke that just did it for a laugh.

[SueEllen]

Freedom of movement includes freedom to stay, those visas will be short term, not leading to permanent settlement, but obviously would be easy route for illegal immigration, assuming UK would even be attractive country for it in a few years time.

Freedom of movement means you can stay over 3 months if you have the means to support yourself.

Once you have stayed over a certain time then you are eligible for certain benefits.

Unfortunately the UK government didn't implement the 3 month rule properly unlike other EEA nations.

[AtW]

I think you'll find that if big businesses were forced to operate on an open market with reduced immigration, basic economics would either force wages up to a level that enticed Brits off the dole, or the businesses would close.

You are making a big assumption that in low unemployment environment many of those who stay on the dole are employable in the first place, nevermind offering lots of money for it.

[AtW]

It is freedom of movement. As long as you're young.

Freedom of movement includes freedom to stay, those visas will be short term, not leading to permanent settlement, but obviously would be easy route for illegal immigration, assuming UK would even be attractive country for it in a few years time.

[original PM]

I have no problems with this.

All immigration will be subject to some form of control.

If the government decides the native population cannot or will not do these jobs then we will be happy to take applicants from over seas.

In much the same way as if we have a shortage of other required skills.

The issue of the lazy english feckers refusing to do the work is different and needs to be tackled differently.

And I voted brexit because I did not want a central european parliment.