Reply to: Computer industry 'faces crisis'

[cojak]

And wunnerful dinners that no one in their right mind would want to attend.

My sister went to a BCS dinner a couple of weeks ago & was bored tulipless...

Food was ok though...

Wouldn't bother with 'em.

Went to the itSMF conference last week where people were still getting sh1tfaced and dancing on tables at 2.00am.

Some delegates didn't even bother going to bed, just packed their bags and went home drunk (trains are great modes of transport...).

Food was good and there was as much wine as you could consume (which was needed as G&T's were over £6 a go - they'll be cheaper next year as it's back to Brighton).

Oh, and the conference itself was pretty good too...

[threaded]

I can remember the terror we all felt when it was announced...

Not.

I too remember laughing out loud, also realising that if even the BBC was taken in by that obvious nonsense there was lots of potential in IT consulting.

[AtW]

there are a lack of skilled politicians in the UK, therefore, we should immediately encourage people from other countries

I may put up myself for General Election in a decade or so...

[mcquiggd]

To paraphrase an earlier post... the government looks at the market locally, then, encouraged by donors from 'big business', seeks a solution globally...

Imagine if we were in a position to say.. 'there are a lack of skilled politicians in the UK, therefore, we should immediately encourage people from other countries who claim to be qualified to move here and compete with an MP, and if you don't select them expect to pay out under the 'human rights' legislation.

[AtW]

I hope you will save us from doom before it's too late threaded...

[threaded]

Starter for 10

Ask one of these new "computer science" graduates what they think of Dr. Knuths work. Don't be surprised by the blank looks.

A good one for a laugh, if they go on about enterprise applications: ask them to discuss the application of Markov chains...

The reason there is a lack of decent computer science graduates is plain to see, the courses are crap, and the output is poor: mainly due to the quality of the educators.

GIGO is what they used to call it when I were a lad.

Now if they were going to replace some New Lie ministers and senior uncivil servants with FTVs that may be a good start.

[DimPrawn]

and twin 8in floppies.

Seen that vid. Very disturbing.

[MrsGoof]

"The Last One"

I'll tell ya we are all doomed read this. I'm sure our resident lizzard can appeciate how this technology will send us all to the unemployment queue.

Suddenly, programming languages seem a little irrelevant since this system will chomp out bug-free programs on receipt of a program design. Of course, in order that people understand the programs produced, they are listed in Basic

The design of The Last One allows it to be run on almost any computer from an HP 41C to, presumably, the biggest Cray. David does all his development work on an Ohio C3C with 96k memory, two terminals, a 23Mb hard Winchester disk - shortly to be up-graded to 74Mb - and twin 8in floppies for security purposes.

At the moment, he is concentrating his efforts on getting the system running on a PET both disk- and tape-based, and under CP/M. Within a matter of months the current version of the system should be available for all the popular machines. Of course, cassette and floppy based systems wonÕt run quite as quickly as the Ohio system but even then, the speed will be many many times faster than hand coding.

[Sysman]

BCS == IET (IEE that was) == Ivory Towers full of academics with no relation to the real world at all...

Don't forget the double barrelled names, plummy accents and bow ties.

[Tonic]

hmmm, presumably not a Grauniad reader, especially not as recently as August 14th 2006:



TW*T

It's because they are useless... They come from UNI knowing next to nothing.. A project you need to do in a Year at Uni, is a two week job in real life.. then move on to somethign else... Uni education is rubbish, buy some proper books from Borders and learn proper stuff.


( bigoted view, but provocative )

[Lockhouse]

Current Number 1 in Have Your Say

I thank yew!

[doug_walters]

Seriously though......

Prof Shadbolt said there was increasing demand but decreasing supply of graduates in computer science http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6155998.stm

hmmm, presumably not a Grauniad reader, especially not as recently as August 14th 2006:

Graduates with degrees in computer science had the highest unemployment rate, with nearly 11% thought to be not working or studying http://money.guardian.co.uk/work/sto...844427,00.html

TW*T

[Ardesco]

He must be utter rubbish, they were begging for members last I heard....

[realityhack]

Every BCS member I've worked with has been a plonker ...

I can testify to that - I have a "senior" (read: getting caught up in the BS politics and loving it) developer who's desperately appliying for membership.

[ImNotFromIndia]

So that should mean an upward pressure on rates?

No. more Indian & Chinese coming over for the unfilled posts.