Reply to: The Rock

[vetran]

ftfy

yes but who is going to subsidise Scotland if they go independent & join the EU, are they willing to stump up the cash to bring on the accession countries?

[shaunbhoy]

Scotland is in the UK, the UK is leaving the EU. Therefore it is reasonable to say that Scotland, having chosen to stay within the UK, must accept that they too will be leaving the EU.

ftfy

[vetran]

They also want to be part of the EU, didn't 96% vote to stay in? Stuck between a rock and a hard place...

we could give them independence so they could stay in the EU but Spain would probably invade and the EU sit back & watch.

Anyway its pretty clear the EU doesn't want Free Ecosse joining I'm sure Gibraltar would have to surrender to the Armada before she can join.

[vetran]

Would it be reasonable to wait for the deal that is negotiated under Article 50 and then have a referendum to see whether the electorate would like to accept the deal or remain in the EU (assuming Article 50 is reversible)?

yes so long as it doesn't significantly affect our negotiation power or it is being used as a method to avoid Brexit.

Were I the PM I would keep that vote quiet until the negotiation is done then 'realise' it is the democratic thing to do.

[darmstadt]

EU democracy in action here.

But Gibraltar doesn't want to become part of Spain. Spain thinks it should be forced to against the wishes of its people. Gibraltar voted by more than 98% in 2002 to tell Spain to piss off.

They also want to be part of the EU, didn't 96% vote to stay in? Stuck between a rock and a hard place...

[AtW]

well a reasonable interval would probably best calculated by reviewing historical events & intervals and applying those. e.g. UK voting on the EU.

Brexit is a material change which changes situation that was prior to previous referendum, they are certainly entitled to re-run it

[northernladyuk]

well a reasonable interval would probably best calculated by reviewing historical events & intervals and applying those. e.g. UK voting on the EU.

Obviously the EU believes in democracy so you keep on having referendums until they get the result they want like Ireland.

I don't tell them, as I said they are welcome to hold one, they just need to vote for it & pay for it. Doesn't seem unreasonable.

Would it be reasonable to wait for the deal that is negotiated under Article 50 and then have a referendum to see whether the electorate would like to accept the deal or remain in the EU (assuming Article 50 is reversible)?

[vetran]

Who are you to tell them what reasonable interval is? It's the will of the people, the more referendums the better, should be regular thing every year.

well a reasonable interval would probably best calculated by reviewing historical events & intervals and applying those. e.g. UK voting on the EU.

Obviously the EU believes in democracy so you keep on having referendums until they get the result they want like Ireland.

I don't tell them, as I said they are welcome to hold one, they just need to vote for it & pay for it. Doesn't seem unreasonable.

[northernladyuk]

Went to watch local cricket match once, boring tulip, but being able to drink cider helped

That is pretty much the point of it.

[northernladyuk]

Scotland is not a member of the EU.

Scotland is in the UK, the UK is in the EU, so Scotland in the EU. Therefore it is reasonable to say that Scotland does not want to leave the EU.

[The_Equalizer]

Went to watch local cricket match once, boring tulip, but being able to drink cider helped

And that's it on the nail. Position yourself midway between the pitch and the beer tent.

[AtW]

We could always apply Tebbit's cricket test. Oh, hang on...

Went to watch local cricket match once, boring tulip, but being able to drink cider helped

[AtW]

Just wonder, you being russian are not pro-russian?

I am pro-Justice.

[rl4engc]

But Scotland does not want to leave EU. Scotland thinks it should not be forced against the wishes of its people. Scotland voted 62% against Brexit in 2016 to tell UK...

Scotland is not a member of the EU.

[The_Equalizer]

Just wonder, you being russian are not pro-russian?

We could always apply Tebbit's cricket test. Oh, hang on...