Reply to: Voters to have final say on brexit

[shaunbhoy]

If it was Farron in the Beano then it would be every bit as plausible!

ftfy

[AtW]

An article by Tim Farron, a Liberal Democrat, in the Guardian.

This!

If it was Farage in the Daily Mail then it would be true!

[shaunbhoy]

I'm not so sure, I think there will be a moment where the genie might go back in the lamp.

Nah....that never happens.

We need to embrace this brave new world.

Onwards and upwards and devil take the hindmost!!!

[PurpleGorilla]

But by the time that would take place it would be too late. It would be like arguing over which bus we missed.

I'm not so sure, I think there will be a moment where the genie might go back in the lamp.

[shaunbhoy]

Because then people vote on two knowns;

EU membership

Brexit deal

But by the time that would take place it would be too late. It would be like arguing over which bus we missed.

[PurpleGorilla]

Why? In what way could a second divisive referendum possibly help matters?

Because then people vote on two knowns;

EU membership

Brexit deal

[shaunbhoy]

FWIW, given the division out there, maybe we should have a second ref.

Why? In what way could a second divisive referendum possibly help matters?

[diseasex]

I decided to read it anyway. Made me laugh. Take this one "travellers having to pay a fee to travel to continental Europe". Of course, travellers from Europe would pay no fee to visit the UK. And it would be the Southern EU states which rely on tourism who would suffer.

5 minutes of my life I will never get back. I could have had a in that time.

I didn't even read haha just the title I liked.

[BrilloPad]

An article by Tim Farron, a Liberal Democrat, in the Guardian.

I decided to read it anyway. Made me laugh. Take this one "travellers having to pay a fee to travel to continental Europe". Of course, travellers from Europe would pay no fee to visit the UK. And it would be the Southern EU states which rely on tourism who would suffer.

5 minutes of my life I will never get back. I could have had a in that time.

[tomtomagain]

Out of interest, if it is agreed that Article 50 is reversible, what is the objection to giving the UK electorate a referendum to choose between leaving on known terms and remaining?

Because the only way to get a "good deal" in any negotiation is if both sides believe that the other side has a credible alternative.

Which is why the UK says : Well if we don't get a deal, we'll just go to WTO, and we won't be asking for permission from anybody.

And the EU says : Well we have four principles, Freedom of movement of people, capital, goods & services, which we won't compromise.

If the EU believed that the UK population could reject the agreed deal then they could deliberately hand out a tulip deal and hope it was rejected in a second referendum.

.... of course the problem with this approach is that there is potential for both sides ending up with a crap deal.

[NotAllThere]

I think NLUK has picked up the German sense of humour. You know - invading Poland, but only as a joke...

[PurpleGorilla]

Where is your sense of fun?

Fun or schadenfreude?

[northernladyuk]

Hmm I personally would welcome an opportunity to address the division via a second ref. but I've made my bed and happy to lie in it.

Where is your sense of fun?

[PurpleGorilla]

Labour and Corbyn are a whole different thing...

I would mainly like to see a second referendum to exacerbate the division further, and to watch the Daily Mail snowflakes scream about traitors and enemies of the people.

Hmm I personally would welcome an opportunity to address the division via a second ref. but I've made my bed and happy to lie in it.

[northernladyuk]

Labours only chance for power - ditch Corbyn and campaign on this single manifesto pledge.

FWIW, given the division out there, maybe we should have a second ref.

Labour and Corbyn are a whole different thing...

I would mainly like to see a second referendum to exacerbate the division further, and to watch the Daily Mail snowflakes scream about traitors and enemies of the people.