Reply to: Schottland plant neues Unabhängigkeitsreferendum

[scooterscot]

Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?

And yet I read recently that Scotland's exports to the remainder of the UK are 63% of its total exports..

Yes but loads% of that 63% is exported to the EU at the end of the day. That'll likely increase when England leaves the EU with Scotland exporting directly. Them companies in England will just move north.

Services are easily mobile. You can't believe the landscape will not change when the world around them does. That's just too naive.

[vetran]

It's not soley about economics, it's also about the sort of country you want to live in.

One bloke I saw on telly earlier made the point that one thing in favour of independence is it's the only way Scotland won't be stuck with a Conservative government for the next 10 years. Which is a fair point, especially as the new Conservative government has lurched further to the right and there's nobody to oppose them.

They have an SNP government up there, if they actually held their MSP's to account they could be independant but with Subsidies.

[northernladyuk]

Just imagine the bitterness of Scotland's Indyref mixed with the tinderbox that NI is. You'll see a return to violence if this is the case.

... served on a bed of Bretinsim.

[VectraMan]

Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?

It's not soley about economics, it's also about the sort of country you want to live in.

One bloke I saw on telly earlier made the point that one thing in favour of independence is it's the only way Scotland won't be stuck with a Conservative government for the next 10 years. Which is a fair point, especially as the new Conservative government has lurched further to the right and there's nobody to oppose them.

[Platypus]

Scotland doesn't want to leave Europe why? For all the amazing trade they do with the EU?

And yet I read recently that Scotland's exports to the remainder of the UK are 63% of its total exports.

By the argument that says don't leave your biggest trading partner, they should remain in the UK.

For remainers who say that leaving your biggest trading partner is madness, they should stay.

She has to ask for a referendum to maintain her political career, otherwise what['s the point of her?


EDIT I'm not against a 2nd referendum, but it's a waste of time and money and will cause even more hatred between a minority of Scots and the English.

[OwlHoot]

Hadrian managed it nearly 2,000 years ago. HTHBIDI

Antonine chose a better route for his wall further north, roughly between Glasgow and Edinburgh I think.

Come to think of it, south of that line the inhabitants are what highland Scots disparagingly call Sassenachs aren't they? That means Saxons, i.e. like most of us in England.

So if the Scots did vote for independence then it stands to reason that England should be extended north to a line between, say, Glasgow and Stirling, and then the Scots have the highlands. Fair's fair!

[sasguru]

So it is the Fourth Reich after all.

The Poles seem to want to disagree.

All's well in eu land.

Why are you so obsessed with whats happening in Euroland.
We're leaving this week remember.
Or do you just lurve them all so much?
GB9 and EU27 sittin in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

[GB9]

According to the Brexit camp Germany = EU. What Germany wants Germany gets. So suck it up.

So it is the Fourth Reich after all.

The Poles seem to want to disagree.

All's well in eu land.

[scooterscot]

The Germans can say what they like but they alone don't run Europe (although they want to).

According to the Brexit camp Germany = EU. What Germany wants Germany gets. So suck it up.

[The_Equalizer]

Looks like there's going to be one in Ireland...

Just imagine the bitterness of Scotland's Indyref mixed with the tinderbox that NI is. You'll see a return to violence if this is the case.

[LondonManc]

Looks like there's going to be one in Ireland, and at a guess the Scotland/England border must be a similar length.

Anyway, I'm sure Brexit voters carefully considered this and other issues when they cast their votes.

Hadrian managed it nearly 2,000 years ago. HTHBIDI

[shaunbhoy]

You should know by now if the EU wants something the EU gets.

The EU wanted the UK to vote Remain.

Nuff said.

[tomtomagain]

Well she has to ask because the SNP cannot trigger a referendum on their own.

So May can either point to some made-up poll ( or even a factual one ) and say "No, the Scottish People have no desire for a referendum".

Or say "Yes. But you aren't having it until the BREXIT negotiations are finished. Otherwise the Scottish people won't know what they are voting on".

I couldn't see the advantages of separation for Scotland the first time round and with the UK ( including Scotland ) outside of the EU and oil down to $50bbl I still cannot.

[VectraMan]

The hard border with England would be problematic.

Looks like there's going to be one in Ireland, and at a guess the Scotland/England border must be a similar length.

Anyway, I'm sure Brexit voters carefully considered this and other issues when they cast their votes.

[northernladyuk]

More taking down. A position you'll miss when Scotland leave.

Scotland will either retain the UK's membership, as has been mentioned by many MEP's or retain a new membership.

You should know by now if the EU wants something the EU gets. The EU would welcome Scotland just to Pi$$ off the rUK.

The hard border with England would be problematic.