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  • NotAllThere
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    Philip Hammond’s hour-long briefing to Cabinet colleagues failed to mention that a tax rise on the self-employed clashed with a Tory election promise
    And not one of the idiots in Cabinet noticed that it did?

    Clegg's breach of manifesto promises was more understandable - as part of a coalition, there's no way each party of the coalition is going to be able to fulfil all it's manifesto promises. However, he picked one that affected far more people than increasing Class 4 NI.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    She needs some Labour MPs to vote to over turn the fixed term parliament act. Would you be a turkey and vote for Christmas?
    I would if it put me out of my mistery...

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  • AtW
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    In Autumn you will beg for a dull budget

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  • DimPrawn
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    Worst thing about the budget is it was the most pathetic, dull budget imaginable. A missed opportunity for some sweeping massive changes as we head into Brexit.

    Instead some minor tinkering, no tax simplification, utter pointless crap from a dull and pointless tory govt.

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  • chopper
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Clegg lost election over that broken promise
    A very very savvy move by the Tories - not only to raise tuition fees astronomically, but then get Clegg to deliver the news. The failure of the Lib Dems to make this one of their red lines when going into coalition meant they got the pasting they deserved in 2015.

    "I agree with Nick"...

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    She bottled her chance just like Brown did
    She needs some Labour MPs to vote to over turn the fixed term parliament act. Would you be a turkey and vote for Christmas?

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    And they were both elected to stand as MPs for the Tories when?

    Is she aware you don't vote for the PM unless that person is your MP.
    She didn't vote for Trump either.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
    True but May is up against Corbyn...even Mr Blobby would beat him in a general election ...
    She bottled her chance just like Brown did

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Clegg lost election over that broken promise
    True but May is up against Corbyn...even Mr Blobby would beat him in a general election ...

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
    Paging Nick Clegg... student fees anyone?

    TBH They may as well all promise every man, woman and child a free unicorn if they get in, it's not like they'll actually feel the need to keep to it once on the gravy train
    Clegg lost election over that broken promise

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  • SlipTheJab
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    Paging Nick Clegg... student fees anyone?

    TBH They may as well all promise every man, woman and child a free unicorn if they get in, it's not like they'll actually feel the need to keep to it once on the gravy train

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    As the wife said 'Ah but that was the David Cameron Tories, not the Theresa May Tories'
    And they were both elected to stand as MPs for the Tories when?

    Is she aware you don't vote for the PM unless that person is your MP.

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  • MarillionFan
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    As the wife said 'Ah but that was the David Cameron Tories, not the Theresa May Tories'

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  • AtW
    started a topic Manifesto promises

    Manifesto promises

    "A furious row over who was to blame for the Budget “shambles” erupted last night after it emerged that the Cabinet was never briefed that the Tory manifesto was being breached.

    Philip Hammond’s hour-long briefing to Cabinet colleagues failed to mention that a tax rise on the self-employed clashed with a Tory election promise, it can be revealed.

    Cabinet sources have blamed the subsequent damaging headlines on the Treasury’s failure to detect the political danger and warn ministers. However, Treasury figures have pointed the finger at No 10 and its demand for spending to protect Theresa May’s “just about managing” families.

    Not once did Mr Hammond mention that his National Insurance increase for the self-employed could clash with a Tory promise made just two years ago, according to numerous sources.

    During the hour-long briefing, the 2015 election pledge to “not raise VAT, National Insurance contributions or Income Tax” was conspicuous only by its absence.

    The oversight lies at the heart of a vicious blame game that has erupted across Westminster this weekend after the worst-received Budget in half a decade.

    Why were ministers not warned? Was the Treasury aware of the issue that would lead almost every newspaper front page the next day? And if not, why not?

    “If No 10 has got all these projects to spend money here, there and everywhere then you have to raise it from somewhere,” a Treasury figure said.

    “They would have done other things. They would have increased Capital Gains Tax and done goodness knows what to make Philip Hammond look like a Corbynista.

    “Nick Timothy [Mrs May’s co-chief of staff] is the one who loves taxes and he loves taxes on the rich because he thinks that’s good for the JAMs nowadays . That’s the impression I get.

    “We are the ones who are deemed to be culpable if we don’t get it right. You cannot borrow, spend more and not increase revenue. It is as simple as that."

    Tory war over Budget 'shambles' as it emerges Cabinet was never briefed about manifesto breach*



    So nobody in the Cabinet remembers their own promises made just 18 months ago???

    Somehow it's the Treasury that is supposed to be tracking manifesto promises, ffs!

    Fecking Conservative Govt's logic is that increasing revenue is only via increased taxes, FFS!
    Last edited by AtW; 11 March 2017, 22:55.

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