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Ah yes but in his new career as media celebrity he's doing far better. and besides hes about to be made an offer he shouldn't refuse to go back to UKIP.
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Originally posted by NigelJK View PostI suspect that PM is now the pinnacle of any career politician in this country (another benefit of leaving the EU is that you don't have a series of PM chunts who then seek higher office in Brussels) and if you get that far you're allowed to start thinking about the country as a whole and no longer about you constituents per se. You will also have the 'might' of the civil service behind you to 'advise'.
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I suspect that PM is now the pinnacle of any career politician in this country (another benefit of leaving the EU is that you don't have a series of PM chunts who then seek higher office in Brussels) and if you get that far you're allowed to start thinking about the country as a whole and no longer about you constituents per se. You will also have the 'might' of the civil service behind you to 'advise'.
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostShe was definitely elected.
As I said, we don't have a President!
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostCorrect, the UK doesn't vote for a Prime Minister therefore she must be an unelected Prime Minister
Probably not at the next election as one of her election campaign statements was that she was against a thrid runway at Heathrow and now she has managed to a 180% turn on that which people there are not too happy about. Full of contradictions that woman...
As I said, we don't have a President!
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Originally posted by sal View PostAll but 1 Conservative MP voted for triggering A50
Much more than 1 Conservative constituency voted Remain
I will let you do the digging yourself, if you want an exact list.
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Originally posted by sal View PostAll but 1 Conservative MP voted for triggering A50
Much more than 1 Conservative constituency voted Remain
I will let you do the digging yourself, if you want an exact list.
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostUK doesn't vote for a Prime Minister directly. Hence not a President.
Originally posted by GB9 View PostUK elects constituency representatives. She was elected by the constituents of Maidenhead.
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostI was laughing because having stated that I didn't know what I meant, I proved I was correct.
You just don't like the system. I sympathise as it's the same one that gave us Gordon Brown.
On your latest point, please give an example of MPs not voting for their constituents
Much more than 1 Conservative constituency voted Remain
I will let you do the digging yourself, if you want an exact list.
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Originally posted by sal View PostGlad you are finding it funny that the country you are living in is beingsteeredwrecked by a person "elected" by 0.002% of the population.
You just don't like the system. I sympathise as it's the same one that gave us Gordon Brown.
On your latest point, please give an example of MPs not voting for their constituents
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Originally posted by sal View PostI'm not saying MPs should vote against A50 and Brexit, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. So they can still vote to give the EU citizens guaranteed stay AND obey the "mandate" of the referendum triggering A50, it's not one OR the other...
The whole notion that MP are considered "rebels" for not doing what the PM is telling them to do is ridiculous.
BTW If i'm not mistaken the referendum was advisory, so not exactly a mandate, but it's semantics as that ship has already sailed.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostThe PM is stating that the members of Parliament respect the mandate of the people, as determined by the outcome of the referendum. If you don't like the result of the referendum, tough; there have been many other decisions that many of us have not liked down the years but we go with a majority.
The whole notion that MP are considered "rebels" for not doing what the PM is telling them to do is ridiculous.
BTW If i'm not mistaken the referendum was advisory, so not exactly a mandate, but it's semantics as that ship has already sailed.
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Originally posted by sal View PostNo. The conclusion of my original post was that MP are supposed to vote based on their own/their constituency conviction. That's what they were elected to do, not to get whipped by the PM to obey a mandated vote. Which goes against the Separation of powers, when the PM (Executive power) can dictate the action of the MPs (Legislative power).
I'm not debating the "quality" of the election/government system, just the blatant misuse of it.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostDeary me, you're having a mare. You're not ScooterScot's sockie are you?
You vote for an MP of a certain party; technically only the PM's constituents actually voted for them and they're generally in a safe seat.
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The PM can only request a 3 line whip, what the MP's vote is in their hands. Take note Mr Corblimey.
Not that he needs to really as he's the most whip avoiding MP in history.
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