Reply to: Brexit Discussion part III - Why to go through with the Brexit and why not to Remain

[vetran]

I suspect that Scotland is going to annex England and that will be the way that the UK gets back into the EU

now that is funny!

[darmstadt]

I suspect that Scotland is going to annex England and that will be the way that the UK gets back into the EU

[vetran]

yes hardly the Mail's finest hour.

But again with the Nazi slur, luckily we seem to be moving away from that Racist bunch with Brexit.


oh look the German far right seem 200 times more popular than the BNP. They got 1.5% of the vote in 2013. The BNP didn't even manage to register above 0.0.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...rty_of_Germany

Election 2015 - BBC News


France of course are exceeding expectations yes Marie Le Penn is scary but guess what she is in another EU country.

014–15 electoral successes[edit]
In the municipal elections held on 23 and 30 March 2014, lists officially supported by National Front won mayoralties in 12 cities: Beaucaire, Cogolin, Fréjus, Hayange, Hénin-Beaumont, Le Luc, Le Pontet, Mantes-la-Ville, Marseille 7th sector, Villers-Cotterêts, Béziers and Camaret-sur-Aigues. Following the municipal elections, the National Front has, in cities of over 1,000 inhabitants, 1,546 and 459 councilors at two different levels of local government.[160] The international media described the results as "historic",[161][162][163] and "impressive", although the International Business Times suggested that "hopes for real political power remain a fantasy" for the National Front.[164]


Demonstration against National Front in Paris after the results of the election.
The National Front received 4,712,461 votes in the 2014 European Parliament election, finishing first with 24.86% of the vote and 24 of France's 74 seats.[165] "It was the first time the anti-immigrant, anti-EU party had won a nationwide election in its four-decade history."[166] The party's success came as a shock in France and the EU.[167][168] The next year, the National Front went on to win another victory in the first round of the 2015 regional elections on December 6, placing first in 6 of the 13 newly redrawn regions and emerging ahead of both major establishment parties overall.[169] In Hauts-de-France, Marine Le Pen won 40.6% of the vote.[170]

Luckily the new countries all keep up the EU spirit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-ri...tics_in_Poland

Public support of these parties is marginal, as they received 2.8% of the popular vote in the 2007 parliamentary elections.



Just to remind you the BNP barely registered 0.0% and EDL didn't even make it on the board of our elections. Us racist Brits need to stay in bed with these nice balanced EU countries.

[vetran]

Whereas you are still claiming that a vote for icebergs is a vote for well chilled cocktails.

Whereas you are complaining about being locked in third class while the rich passengers get in the restricted number of lifeboats

FTFY.

[sasguru]

That would be funny if there were even a strand of humour in it.

Indeed.

[northernladyuk]

This would be funny if there were even a strand of humour in it.

Too true.

[shaunbhoy]

Whereas you are still claiming that a vote for icebergs is a vote for well chilled cocktails.

That would be funny if there were even a strand of humour in it.

[northernladyuk]

In exactly the same way that nobody across parties, across faiths, across Brexit/Remain opinion would have known how Britain would have looked even had we chosen to Remain.

I clearly pitched my response yesterday at too high an adult level, forgetting that dullards like you might grasp it and fail to comprehend the central message.

Honestly Milan, on a forum that is a target-rich environment for slack-jawed stupidity, you have taken things to a new and disturbing level.

If you cannot see just what is wrong with the way the EU operates, and understand why a majority of Brits have chosen to break free from its shackles, then that is your issue.

The Bremainers on here come across like Steerage Class passengers pestering the Chief Purser for a cabin upgrade whilst he is trying to coordinate the lifeboat loading.

Whereas you are still claiming that a vote for icebergs is a vote for well chilled cocktails.

[shaunbhoy]

together, Brexiters and Remoaners have unanimously agreed that nobody across parties, across faiths, across Brexit opinion, nobody knows how Britain will look post Brexit...

In exactly the same way that nobody across parties, across faiths, across Brexit/Remain opinion would have known how Britain would have looked even had we chosen to Remain.

I clearly pitched my response yesterday at too high an adult level, forgetting that dullards like you might grasp it and fail to comprehend the central message.

Honestly Milan, on a forum that is a target-rich environment for slack-jawed stupidity, you have taken things to a new and disturbing level.

If you cannot see just what is wrong with the way the EU operates, and understand why a majority of Brits have chosen to break free from its shackles, then that is your issue.

The Bremainers on here come across like Steerage Class passengers pestering the Chief Purser for a cabin upgrade whilst he is trying to coordinate the lifeboat loading.

[northernladyuk]

Good Afternoon All,

we're getting there,

let's recap,

together, Brexiters and Remoaners have unanimously agreed that nobody across parties, across faiths, across Brexit opinion, nobody knows how Britain will look post Brexit...




continuing the theme, this morning together, the Brexiters and Remoaners openly discussed their thoughts, ideas, dreams of how Britain would look Post Brexit.

Unfortunately, it's not a pretty picture, and the concensus across Brexiters and Remoaners is that sadly Britain will not be in a better position that it is today Post Brexit


Naturally then, the next logical step in the discussion,

is to open the floor,

to Brexiters and Remoaners to courageously and openly discuss,

Why is Britain going ahead with the Brexit, and why not to Remain ?

The floor is yours....

play nicely

Milan.

[sasguru]

I'm sure the remainer experts on doom & gloom can help us.

Sure. Do you mean this George Soros or another one?

Soros: 'I've lost my touch' - Jun. 16, 2000

This one is a classic. Even I made money on the pound fall.
George Soros Lost Money Betting on Pound After Predicting Brexit Doom | Fortune.com

George Soros 'loses' $1bn after bearish Trump trades

I think he was last right betting against the pound in 1992.

[vetran]

He also stated that the EU is on the point of disintegration unless it changes its rules.

did you mean this one?

Soros: European Union in mortal danger

"EU leaders need to embrace the idea that effectively addressing the crisis will require "surge" funding, rather than scraping together insufficient funds year after year. Spending a large amount at the outset would allow the EU to respond more effectively to some of the most dangerous consequences of the refugee crisis."

or this one?

EU collapse is now 'practically IRREVERSIBLE' after Brexit, says George Soros | World | News | Daily Express

The billionaire, known as the man who broke the Bank of England, has said that Brexit is the final nail in the coffin for the EU.

He said the UK's split from the EU is likely to hasten the break-up of the 28 member bloc, to be 27 after UK exit.

He said:"The consequences for the real economy will be comparable to the financial crisis of 2007-2008 but the implications for Europe could be far worse.

"Tensions among member states have reached breaking point, not only over refugees but also as a result of exceptional strains between creditor and debtor countries within the eurozone."

or this one?

George Soros bets €100m on German bank collapse after Brexit | World | News | Daily Express

The man who "broke the Bank of England" took a short position of 0.51 per cent in Deutsche Bank shares on Friday - the day after the people of Britain backed Brexit.

In growing signs that desperate Angela Merkel's economy is struggling in the wake of the nation's decision to leave the EU - Soros Fund Management said its short position was now 0.46 per cent - suggesting it had begun to take profits from the trade.

Since the momentous decision, shares at Deutsche have dramatically slumped.

or this one

George Soros Is Betting Big On Disaster | Fortune.com

George Soros is preparing to make a bundle on a coming financial disaster.
Soros, who has returned to trading after a long hiatus, has sold some of his stocks in his $30 billion portfolio and moved a good chunk of that portfolio into gold. Soros Fund Management has been moving some of its money into gold and the shares of gold mining companies for a little while. But according to the WSJ, Soros has essentially come out of retirement to oversee the trade because he thinks there are a lot of profits to be made.
Among Soros' concerns are China, massive world deflation, and the end of the EU. In January, at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, Soros compared what was happening in financial markets to what happened in 2008. "We are repeating 2008," he said.

I'm sure the remainer experts on doom & gloom can help us.

[GB9]

George Soros predicting the UK will leave the EU on Friday when article 50 runs out and will rejoin on Monday as a "Disguised member".

He also stated that the EU is on the point of disintegration unless it changes its rules.

[GB9]

Good Afternoon All,

we're getting there,

let's recap,

together, Brexiters and Remoaners have unanimously agreed that nobody across parties, across faiths, across Brexit opinion, nobody knows how Britain will look post Brexit...




continuing the theme, this morning together, the Brexiters and Remoaners openly discussed their thoughts, ideas, dreams of how Britain would look Post Brexit.

Unfortunately, it's not a pretty picture, and the concensus across Brexiters and Remoaners is that sadly Britain will not be in a better position that it is today Post Brexit


Naturally then, the next logical step in the discussion,

is to open the floor,

to Brexiters and Remoaners to courageously and openly discuss,

Why is Britain going ahead with the Brexit, and why not to Remain ?

The floor is yours....

play nicely

Milan.

Because after 2 years we will be in a much better position as we have continually told you. And we don't want to be controlled by other countries.

Which bit of that don't you understand?

[VectraMan]

George Soros predicting the UK will leave the EU on Friday when article 50 runs out and will rejoin on Monday as a "Disguised member".

It'll have to make sure it's not under any direction or control, has no obligation to accept anything, and has the right to substitute a different country at any time.

None of which seem very likely to be the reality.