Reply to: Theresa May's Brexit Plan I Want, I Want, I Want

[shaunbhoy]

Now I know where I've been going wrong all along.

If only sas. If only.

[sasguru]

Now I know where I've been going wrong all along. I've stupidly been paying my tennis club dues for 5 years. Tomorrow I'm going to stop paying and demand free access to the courts and club house. Because I'm worth it.

[darmstadt]

"Afternoon, Sir. Can we help?"
"Yeah - I want a better deal on my membership."
"OK, here's the best we can do."
"That's not good enough for me."
"Really? No-one else in the club has such a deal."
"Well, I don't like the paying and I don't like the rules. I don't like how we vote. You're all a dictator. I've decided - I'm leaving. I'm cancelling my membership."
"OK"
"But I still want access."
"Right. OK - we can sort out some partial access deal... but you'd need full membership for full access."
"Oh, so you want to punish me for not being a member, eh?!"
"No..."
"Yes, you're punishing me. You're just like a WWII prison guard beating me for trying to escape."
"Um, what? You're free to go..."
"You need me more than I need you!"
"Please go..."

...

[PurpleGorilla]

It is comfortable to blame others, I'll give you that.

Compared to a number of other smaller EU states (and larger) infrastructure has remained state owned. Here in the UK we privatise the lot for a quick cash injection and happy shareholders. Profit is not returned to the state, why would we expect improvement?

Indeed small businesses throughout Germany receive much support from the state, selling their products throughout the EU. The UK is about to throw a number of hurdles in front of small business to access the EU. If I were a small business I'd be seriously looking to relocated to the larger customer base.

In my view the UK can only blame itself. I recall the third Heathrow runway being discussed 16 year ago. It'll be beyond 20 before it becomes. Meanwhile Germany has built a new high-speed railway between Munich and Berlin.

As the saying goes you don't know what you've lost until it's gone. And it's not a lesson that needs teaching as younger generations shall now be deprived of opportunity by a hysterical older generation.

Up down or stagnating was the question!

[SueEllen]

May will get what she wants - Brexit that means Brexit.

And why not, she asked for it?

A red, white and blue Brexit.

"Allons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrive.."

[AtW]

May will get what she wants - Brexit that means Brexit.

And why not, she asked for it?

[darmstadt]

Yes, you have to protect the ideology regardless of how much it hurts your own people.

Ah, the North Korean analogy

[shaunbhoy]

Did you copy that from the Tory manifesto?

No, he simply extrapolated it from the available data. You should try it sometime.



Honestly, it makes one wonder just how you keep that dunce's hat of yours secured to that low sloping forehead. Do you just sit still a lot or have you stapled it into the wood?

[scooterscot]

Yes, you have to protect the ideology regardless of how much it hurts your own people.

Did you copy that from the Tory manifesto?

[GB9]

Many Brexitiers just don't get this very simple statement:


Joseph Muscat, prime minister of Malta, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency: “We want a fair deal for the UK, but that deal needs to be inferior to membership. This should not come as a surprise. Thinking it can come otherwise indicates a detachment from reality.”

Yes, you have to protect the ideology regardless of how much it hurts your own people.

Good to see that the German car manufacturers acknowledge that punishing us will hurt them too though. I'm sure they are happy with that.

[chopper]

Many Brexitiers just don't get this very simple statement:


Joseph Muscat, prime minister of Malta, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency: “We want a fair deal for the UK, but that deal needs to be inferior to membership. This should not come as a surprise. Thinking it can come otherwise indicates a detachment from reality.”

It will be inferior - there will be no unrestricted freedom of movement of people.

[eek]

Many Brexitiers just don't get this very simple statement:


Joseph Muscat, prime minister of Malta, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency: “We want a fair deal for the UK, but that deal needs to be inferior to membership. This should not come as a surprise. Thinking it can come otherwise indicates a detachment from reality.”

Restricted movement would be inferior to full membership.

[scooterscot]

Many Brexitiers just don't get this very simple statement:


Joseph Muscat, prime minister of Malta, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency: “We want a fair deal for the UK, but that deal needs to be inferior to membership. This should not come as a surprise. Thinking it can come otherwise indicates a detachment from reality.”

[milanbenes]

It is comfortable to blame others, I'll give you that.

Compared to a number of other smaller EU states (and larger) infrastructure has remained state owned. Here in the UK we privatise the lot for a quick cash injection and happy shareholders. Profit is not returned to the state, why would we expect improvement?

Indeed small businesses throughout Germany receive much support from the state, selling their products throughout the EU. The UK is about to throw a number of hurdles in front of small business to access the EU. If I were a small business I'd be seriously looking to relocated to the larger customer base.

In my view the UK can only blame itself. I recall the third Heathrow runway being discussed 16 year ago. It'll be beyond 20 before it becomes. Meanwhile Germany has built a new high-speed railway between Munich and Berlin.

As the saying goes you don't know what you've lost until it's gone. And it's not a lesson that needs teaching as younger generations shall now be deprived of opportunity by a hysterical older generation.

Scooter,

as I am sure you well know, what you have described is the unfortunate difference between us (Britain) and ze Germans

Us (Britain) unfortunately, in general, our government and big business are totally short term oriented, privatization, quick money here, quick money there, from the Government through to big business and the banking system, there is no culture or mentality to invest in the long term

Ze Germans, they are, and always have been, long term thinkers and players, they lay down foundations for industries which will become world players during the next 2, 3, or 4 generations and on a continuously rolling basis, with this underlying mentality and culture, they have a government and business and bank lending system which is happy with long term planning and long term returns and not distracted by a quick buck here and there


Unfortunately, that is how it is, and that is one of the fundamental keys to their success

Milan.

[scooterscot]

So excluding brexit is the UK going up, down, or stagnating?

In your view?

It is comfortable to blame others, I'll give you that.

Compared to a number of other smaller EU states (and larger) infrastructure has remained state owned. Here in the UK we privatise the lot for a quick cash injection and happy shareholders. Profit is not returned to the state, why would we expect improvement?

Indeed small businesses throughout Germany receive much support from the state, selling their products throughout the EU. The UK is about to throw a number of hurdles in front of small business to access the EU. If I were a small business I'd be seriously looking to relocated to the larger customer base.

In my view the UK can only blame itself. I recall the third Heathrow runway being discussed 16 year ago. It'll be beyond 20 before it becomes. Meanwhile Germany has built a new high-speed railway between Munich and Berlin.

As the saying goes you don't know what you've lost until it's gone. And it's not a lesson that needs teaching as younger generations shall now be deprived of opportunity by a hysterical older generation.