So hard Brexit it is

[jamesbrown]

I don't think that's correct. To be in the EEA, you have to either be in the EU or in EFTA. We are not in EFTA and once we leave the EU, we will not be in that either. So we wouldn't be in the EEA.

(Personally, I think the 'Flexcit' approach preached by eureferendum.com - i.e. EFTA membership, so being in the EEA - is the way forwards. We voted to leave the political European Union, we didn't vote to leave the EEA, that we weren't asked about)

That isn't what they meant. They are talking about the formal notification process and whether a vote is required in Parliament. It's pointless us arguing about that, because we aren't lawyers and there's a court case pending. However, in practice, it's moot, as I said, because a final vote will happen anyway. Basically, both the A50 and A127 cases have very little practical significance now w/r to the end state, but they may have an impact on timing (which I guess you could stretch to an impact on state, i.e. the continuity Bremoan delay strategy, but highly unlikely).

[chopper]

May can trigger article 50, based on the mandate given by the referendum, but she has no mandate to trigger Article 127 of the European Economic Area agreement which sets out the mechanism for leaving the single market. so even after brexit we would still be in the EEA

I don't think that's correct. To be in the EEA, you have to either be in the EU or in EFTA. We are not in EFTA and once we leave the EU, we will not be in that either. So we wouldn't be in the EEA.

(Personally, I think the 'Flexcit' approach preached by eureferendum.com - i.e. EFTA membership, so being in the EEA - is the way forwards. We voted to leave the political European Union, we didn't vote to leave the EEA, that we weren't asked about)

[milanbenes]

If there's a GE what's the bets it's a hung parliament and coalition government

in which case, all bets are off and it's remain

Milan.

[jamesbrown]

May can trigger article 50, based on the mandate given by the referendum, but she has no mandate to trigger Article 127 of the European Economic Area agreement which sets out the mechanism for leaving the single market. so even after brexit we would still be in the EEA

It's completely moot since May has announced that both houses of Parliament will get a vote on the final deal. Either the deal will be approved, together with any formal processes, or it won't be approved. If it isn't approved, there will be a GE, and the GE will seek to resolve all outstanding questions (regardless of whether A50 has been determined to be reversible in the intervening period, whether A127 has meaning within an A50 process etc.). The only hope for continuity Bremain is a GE, but it's quite likely that the default position will be WTO, if this happens at the end of the A50 process, while that is being resolved (hence enormous pressure on both houses to vote in favour).

[Eirikur]

May can trigger article 50, based on the mandate given by the referendum, but she has no mandate to trigger Article 127 of the European Economic Area agreement which sets out the mechanism for leaving the single market. so even after brexit we would still be in the EEA

[shaunbhoy]

So you think Brexit will be a good thing for this country?

Did I say that, or would I need to have said that to add any validity to your ridiculously gloomy speculative guessing?

Lets resurrect this thread 2 years from now, you cretinous imbecile.

Why choose an arbitrary figure of only 2 years? It may take longer to quantify the long term ramifications. I am prepared to play the long game.
You ought to try it sometime instead of constantly skipping about, desperately hoping for quick fixes all the time to appease your limited attention span.

[sasguru]

Talking about the "Saddest thing about Brexit"! Here he is in all his pompous glory.

So you think Brexit will be a good thing for this country?
Lets resurrect this thread 2 years from now, you cretinous imbecile.

[AtW]

Sterling is slipping again...

DOOMED!!!

[shaunbhoy]

Some speculative piffle deleted

Talking about the "Saddest thing about Brexit"! Here he is in all his pompous glory.

[eek]

Hard to argue it won't have a negative impact.
Also hard to quantify that negative impact.
I think for experienced graduates with hard degrees down south, the impact will be minimal, since they are in short supply.
But the Brexiter demographic, particularly up North, are in for a very rough time.

they were in for a rough time regardless - hence voting for the not the status quo option in June....

[sasguru]

Hard to argue it won't have a negative impact.
Also hard to quantify that negative impact.
I think for experienced graduates with hard degrees down south, the impact will be minimal, since they are in short supply.
But the Brexiter demographic, particularly up North, are in for a very rough time.