Reply to: Oh Dear Scotland the Skint

[ContractorHardman]

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Vetran

[vetran]

Good vote for independence and this time please go

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[SueEllen]

UK have stopped us having Devo-max which is the full devolution of powers to Scotland despite the promise during the Indy ref.

They are now stopping us remaining in the EU despite the entire country of Scotland wanting to stay in it.

Don't get me started on the poll tax, which was given to Scotland first.

On to your last statement, which is essentially why Scotland doesn't want to be part of the UK in a snap shot. Scotland is a country and your statement implies they can't take care of our own country. That is a ridiculous statement to make and neither is it the concern of another country, if Scotland is the big burden on the UK like it has been suggested then it should be no loss to the UK nor shall it be a concern on how its run. Quite frankly, I would rather Nicola Sturgeon be in charge of the country than any of the other party leaders.

The English politics is a joke littered with jokers... Cameron (Pig f*****), Boris (Jester), Corbyn (Nice but dim) and Farage (Racist who proudly sits with Trump).

Good vote for independence and this time please go

[GB9]

Yes, seen it. Labour were returned with a majority in all cases in The Blair/Brown years and Scottish votes didn't change that outcome.

Even without Scottish votes, their majority at their weakest point would have been almost double what the current Govt has. Is that a position of weakness propped up by Scottish MP's in your opinion ??

Interestingly, in one election they had fewer votes than the current government but far more seats.

[ContractorHardman]

which things have the UK stopped you doing?

If Scotland could be hived off as a going concern then it might be possible to give them more freedom. They have a Parliament & some control over finance use it & prove you are ready to rule rather than whinging.

UK have stopped us having Devo-max which is the full devolution of powers to Scotland despite the promise during the Indy ref.

They are now stopping us remaining in the EU despite the entire country of Scotland wanting to stay in it.

Don't get me started on the poll tax, which was given to Scotland first.

On to your last statement, which is essentially why Scotland doesn't want to be part of the UK in a snap shot. Scotland is a country and your statement implies they can't take care of our own country. That is a ridiculous statement to make and neither is it the concern of another country, if Scotland is the big burden on the UK like it has been suggested then it should be no loss to the UK nor shall it be a concern on how its run. Quite frankly, I would rather Nicola Sturgeon be in charge of the country than any of the other party leaders.

The English politics is a joke littered with jokers... Cameron (Pig f*****), Boris (Jester), Corbyn (Nice but dim) and Farage (Racist who proudly sits with Trump).

[TestMangler]

they have massively increased Labour majority many times, would New Lie have been able to do what they did if Scotland hadn't increased their majority significantly.

The general elections where Scotland decided who ran the UK - Telegraph

see - How does Scotland affect the outcome of the general election?

Yes, seen it. Labour were returned with a majority in all cases in The Blair/Brown years and Scottish votes didn't change that outcome.

Even without Scottish votes, their majority at their weakest point would have been almost double what the current Govt has. Is that a position of weakness propped up by Scottish MP's in your opinion ??

[vetran]

When did this happen then ??

'64, Autumn '74 and 2010 are the only times in recent history where Scottish votes have changed the UK result.

So, you actually talk tulipe. So why should your opinions be taken as valid by anyone when you can't even get a simple and easily verifiable fact correct?

they have massively increased Labour majority many times, would New Lie have been able to do what they did if Scotland hadn't increased their majority significantly.

The general elections where Scotland decided who ran the UK - Telegraph

see - How does Scotland affect the outcome of the general election?

[The_Equalizer]

But Scotland did not influence the result of any of the Labour Blair/Brown terms as Vetran suggested.

Now you're suggesting that people spouting tulipe as fact doesn't really matter. Are you a Bob Project Manager ??

But they have influenced 3 since 1950. Moreover, in the last twenty years tell me when Scotland voted majority Labour and when there was a Labour government? So saying Scotland doesn't get the government it wants or have an influence isn't true.

[The Spartan]

So it's actually the Welsh and Northern Irish who are canny, and not the Scots.

That's right we know which side our bread is buttered

[The_Equalizer]

I watch the BBC weather from time to time, Scotland not even on the map.

I would suggest your telly is bust then.

[TestMangler]

Given that Scotland make up 11% of the population of the UK they have swayed the vote on more the 1/10 occasions. However, this is all academic. We are a United Kingdom and opperate as such.

But Scotland did not influence the result of any of the Labour Blair/Brown terms as Vetran suggested.

Now you're suggesting that people spouting tulipe as fact doesn't really matter. Are you a Bob Project Manager ??

[scooterscot]

Given that Scotland make up 11% of the population of the UK they have swayed the vote on more the 1/10 occasions. However, this is all academic. We are a United Kingdom and opperate as such.

I watch the BBC weather from time to time, Scotland not even on the map.

[The_Equalizer]

When did this happen then ??

'64, Autumn '74 and 2010 are the only times in recent history where Scottish votes have changed the UK result.

So, you actually talk tulipe. So why should your opinions be taken as valid by anyone when you can't even get a simple and easily verifiable fact correct?

Given that Scotland make up 11% of the population of the UK they have swayed the vote on more the 1/10 occasions. However, this is all academic. We are a United Kingdom and opperate as such.

[The_Equalizer]

That's what happens when you're running a deficit, it's the same for Wales and no doubt Northern Ireland all 3 spend more than they contribute to the economy.

So it's actually the Welsh and Northern Irish who are canny, and not the Scots.

[The Spartan]

Its not so much that Scotland hates the people of the UK, we obviously have friends from across the UK. What Scotland does in fact take exception to is not being able to run its own country how it sees fit by its own people. Anything that Scotland wants to happen within its country has to be accepted by Westminster which is a government establishment filled majorly with English people. If Scotland wishes to have another referendum then they should be allowed without the UK’s consent.

Reverse the above and now say it like this England would want something to happen however it would need to get passed through a majority Scottish Government. This isn’t about hatred, this is about Scotland being able to do what is best for Scotland, not the UK.

Another thing, if we are such a burden to the UK as suggested, why does the UK want to keep Scotland?

That's what happens when you're running a deficit, it's the same for Wales and no doubt Northern Ireland all 3 spend more than they contribute to the economy.