Reply to: Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' ration

[vetran]

This is a small overcrowded island.

Do you want the whole country to end up like Birmingham?

what full of Russians & Terrified Squirrels?



Yep its the American thing, build more houses its what we would do! You have to remind them that the UK is a third of the size of Texas.

MapFight - United Kingdom vs Texas size comparison

UK is 1% the size of Russia.

MapFight - United Kingdom vs Russia size comparison

[AtW]

Do you want the whole country to end up like Birmingham?

When I drive to office I can see plenty of run down unused buildings with broken windows, why can't cheap housing be build there?

When I drive on M40 to Heathrow I can see endless green land - there is plenty of space in this country to have very cheap housing, albeit not everybody is going to get a nice view of the Big Ben - those houses will inevitably be limited and thus very expensive.

[BrilloPad]

Build more houses, that's the right answer.

Be entrepreneurial for fecks sake.

This is a small overcrowded island.

Do you want the whole country to end up like Birmingham?

[AtW]

2nd homes don't add to a community feel. And they push up house prices. I would ban 2nd home ownership. Or at least tax it a 1000000%

Build more houses, that's the right answer.

Be entrepreneurial for fecks sake.

[BrilloPad]

But empty houses don't generate garbage, don't require much of policing, edukation etc - fair council tax for an empty house should be maybe 10% of full rate, certainly not 100%.

btw, shaunbhoy lives there, maybe that would convince you that it's totally fair...

2nd homes don't add to a community feel. And they push up house prices. I would ban 2nd home ownership. Or at least tax it a 1000000%

[AtW]

It's unfair to the people who actually live in Cornwall, Devon, Norfolk etc the vast majority of the time. Are they suppose to have their council services cut because the second home owners can't be bothered to pay full price for them?

But empty houses don't generate garbage, don't require much of policing, edukation etc - fair council tax for an empty house should be maybe 10% of full rate, certainly not 100%.

btw, shaunbhoy lives there, maybe that would convince you that it's totally fair...

[SueEllen]

Very unfair to second home owners I say.

It's unfair to the people who actually live in Cornwall, Devon, Norfolk etc the vast majority of the time. Are they suppose to have their council services cut because the second home owners can't be bothered to pay full price for them?

Build more houses and increase overall wealth I say.

Yep.

[AtW]

BTW They got rid of the discount to discourage second home owners e.g. Cornwall and foreign "investors" e.g. London leaving properties empty.

Very unfair to second home owners I say.

Build more houses and increase overall wealth I say.

[SueEllen]

Most foreigners work and pay the same level of NI/tax as Brits, why would they not be entitled to the care from NHS? The so called health tourism is very limited, regardless of what the DailyMail tells you.

Health tourism is from non-EU countries normally developing ones - other EU nationals once they have experienced the "great" NHS try to go back to their own countries for healthcare.

[sal]

What about foreigners, or children of foreigners. Can we calculate that as well please, just for balance?

Most foreigners work and pay the same level of NI/tax as Brits, why would they not be entitled to the care from NHS? The so called health tourism is very limited, regardless of what the DailyMail tells you.

[westtester]

What about gastric band surgery?

[Old Greg]

Poll tax to me sounds much fairer than current Council Tax.

I reckon a single person living in a squalid flat in the West Midlands would come out about the same under either system.

[MarillionFan]

Well seeing as the cost to the NHS from obesity is estimated to be larger than the cost from smokers and the tax smokers pay outweighs their cost to the NHS I am most miffed.

Fat feckers

What about foreigners, or children of foreigners. Can we calculate that as well please, just for balance?

[SueEllen]

Council tax totally unfair - based mostly on value of house even though services used clearly depend on number of people living in it - more garbage from 4 people than 1. Single occupancy discount is 25% (LOL!), and not even given at all if property is empty (where I live).

Poll tax as I read about it - "a head tax that saw every adult pay a fixed rate amount set by their local authority." is much fairer since it directly taxes adults, sounds much fairer to me.

Go read your history books - though I think there still a program on iPlayer about the 80s.

You also seem unaware that most council money comes from Central Government.

BTW They got rid of the discount to discourage second home owners e.g. Cornwall and foreign "investors" e.g. London leaving properties empty.

[BrilloPad]

Council tax totally unfair - based mostly on value of house even though services used clearly depend on number of people living in it - more garbage from 4 people than 1. Single occupancy discount is 25% (LOL!), and not even given at all if property is empty (where I live).

Poll tax as I read about it - "a head tax that saw every adult pay a fixed rate amount set by their local authority." is much fairer since it directly taxes adults, sounds much fairer to me.

You are stuffed if they tax adult squirrels. You would pay for yourself and your harem of 25 female furry friends....