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Previously on "Getting involved in overseas politics"

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post

    If the windows in your secure unit do by any chance open, do us all a favour and reduce the cretin count by 1. There's a good chap.
    You don't think they'd risk putting him in a room higher than the ground floor.

    If he jumps out of the window, he'll just end up rolling around in the flower bed!

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    This is also true. The OP make a very clumsy jibe at Farage tho' so thought it worth pointing out.
    I like Farage! But he should not get involved in overseas affairs.

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  • NigelJK
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    This is also true. The OP make a very clumsy jibe at Farage tho' so thought it worth pointing out.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    True. Though politicians who are completely out of touch with the majority of the UK played their part too.
    Doesn't really narrow it down BP....

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    We ARE leaving the EU and we get closer to invoking A50 every day, without Farage that would still be a distant dream for the electorate.
    True. Though politicians who are completely out of touch with the majority of the UK played their part too.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
    We ARE leaving the EU and we get closer to invoking A50 every day, without Farage that would still be a distant dream for the electorate.

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  • NigelJK
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    Farage has not got uk any closer to article 50.
    We ARE leaving the EU and we get closer to invoking A50 every day, without Farage that would still be a distant dream for the electorate.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    He is a highly intelligent president compared to his immediate predecessors.
    I would also add that he took over at a time of financial crisis and stabilised the US so that a depression was avoided.
    If I would have a criticism it would be that his concentration on a domestic agenda led him to take his eye off the ball a tad on foreign affairs.
    Sadly, the US, like the UK, has now bred too many cretins. And as such his legacy will not be appreciated.
    If the windows in your secure unit do by any chance open, do us all a favour and reduce the cretin count by 1. There's a good chap.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    He deserves a break - he's been brilliant.
    Translation: He's been slightly less useless than the alternative.

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  • Milkyway
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    Trump has not won anything yet, and Farage has not got uk any closer to article 50.
    WTF are they both smiling about?

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    FTFY
    Whs x2

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    It's a very good idea, from a British Foreign policy standpoind, to try and cover all the angles.

    If Trump loses then no harm done, to the UK or to Farage (if he is genuinely retiring from politics), and if Trump wins then the UK gains kudos with him by having had at least one high profile politician who publicy supported him.

    For this purpose, Trump's policies and attitudes are completely immaterial, and arguing about his merits or otherwise is missing the point.

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    He is a highly intelligent president compared to his immediate predecessors.
    Agreed.

    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    I would also add that he took over at a time of financial crisis and stabilised the US so that a depression was avoided.
    Undoubtedly

    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    If I would have a criticism it would be that his concentration on a domestic agenda led him to take his eye off the ball a tad on foreign affairs.
    Given the mess he inherited domestically, that's a somewhat harsh criticism even if correct. It's a bit of a conundrum for USA, they're accused of either ignoring the global issues when they focus internally or alternatively criticised for meddling when they get involved in international affairs. There seems to be an expectation that they're responsible in some way to resolving the ills of the world. More collective responsibility is required from other developed nations.

    What is a fact though is the US's foreign policy approvals rating amongst the rest of the world has improved dramatically since he took over from Dubya so he hasn't got it all wrong.

    Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
    Sadly, the US, like the UK, has now bred too many cretins. And as such his legacy will not be appreciated.
    Very true and probably why he is viewed more favourably outside of the USA than he is appreciated by its citizens.

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  • CretinWatcher
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    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    He is a highly intelligent president compared to his immediate predecessors.
    I would also add that he took over at a time of financial crisis and stabilised the US so that a depression was avoided.
    If I would have a criticism it would be that his concentration on a domestic agenda led him to take his eye off the ball a tad on foreign affairs.
    Sadly, the US, like the UK, has now bred too many cretins. And as such his legacy will not be appreciated.

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  • oracleslave
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    Try this for a balanced review

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