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Previously on "Corbyn won't help NATO countries in case of Russian invasion"

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Go boil your head.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by sirja View Post
    The problem is people like Corbyn deep down in their red hearts don't want to win power. It so much sweeter to have 'Purity of ideology' than have to make the required compromises for power. It really is not rocket science, Labour won 3 elections and prevented the Tories from getting a majority in the 4th all by being firmly in the center. This hard left position will please the momentum crowd no end and in 2020 it'll hand the Tories a whopping big majority. Shame the Labour Party members don't seem to be interested in winning power. They also don't seem to understand that with the SNP dominant in Scotland and proposed boundary changes, it's going to be harder than ever for Labour to form a govt, not to talk of when running on a loony left platform.
    The current boundaries have benefitted Labour for years. Look at Blair's majorities and vote percentages vs the Coalition in 2010 and the Tories in 2015. If all constituencies were of equal size the Tories would be massively ahead. Which is probably why the Ljbs blocked the change.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, he lost my vote.

    Fecking idiot - he could have had guaranteed landslide in 2020 (or earlier) if he only just had a few sensible policies.

    He does not like war? Well, NATO deterrence is what stops Russia at the moment from attacking Batlic states same way it did Ukraine and Georgia.
    Ah, the better red than dead campaign of the 80s. Splendid.

    There wasn't a hope in hell of Corbyn ever winning an election.
    England is a conservative country. Labour won for 13 years by being more conservative than the Conservatives.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Must have made you feel horny.

    Love CMD
    FTFY

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
    Took some pics while he was doing that:

    Must have made you feel hungry.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, you are smarter than me then
    Isn't everyone?

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  • FatLazyContractor
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Go boil your head.
    Took some pics while he was doing that:

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    SueEllen in "making sense" shocker!!

    Go boil your head.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    I've heard a former Labour party worker state that. Also McDonnell et al think that if the Tories stay in power long enough workers will revolt. Unfortunately they don't realise that most people aren't the cap-doffing workers of yesteryear and so will just find another party who listens to them like people have in Scotland. Oh and the reason there are so many prominent women in Scottish politics is partly due to Labour p*ssing a lot of female voters off.
    SueEllen in "making sense" shocker!!

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by sirja View Post
    The problem is people like Corbyn deep down in their red hearts don't want to win power. It so much sweeter to have 'Purity of ideology' than have to make the required compromises for power. It really is not rocket science, Labour won 3 elections and prevented the Tories from getting a majority in the 4th all by being firmly in the center. This hard left position will please the momentum crowd no end and in 2020 it'll hand the Tories a whopping big majority. .
    I've heard a former Labour party worker state that. Also McDonnell et al think that if the Tories stay in power long enough workers will revolt. Unfortunately they don't realise that most people aren't the cap-doffing workers of yesteryear and so will just find another party who listens to them like people have in Scotland. Oh and the reason there are so many prominent women in Scottish politics is partly due to Labour p*ssing a lot of female voters off.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, you are smarter than me then
    Hardly a particularly exclusive Club though, is it?

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  • sirja
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not smarter just more aware of his foibles. If ALL your then front bench sound better than you at PMQs in holding the PM to account, and you cannot lead your own MPs including left wingers like Heidi Alexander then you can't be leader.

    Corbyn can be voted in as leader but it will leave the Labour party to be unelectable like they were when Michael Foot was leader. The party needs to move to the centre not launch to the left. Ed Miliband lost the election due to being left wing and not realising that the core vote isn't guaranteed.
    The problem is people like Corbyn deep down in their red hearts don't want to win power. It so much sweeter to have 'Purity of ideology' than have to make the required compromises for power. It really is not rocket science, Labour won 3 elections and prevented the Tories from getting a majority in the 4th all by being firmly in the center. This hard left position will please the momentum crowd no end and in 2020 it'll hand the Tories a whopping big majority. Shame the Labour Party members don't seem to be interested in winning power. They also don't seem to understand that with the SNP dominant in Scotland and proposed boundary changes, it's going to be harder than ever for Labour to form a govt, not to talk of when running on a loony left platform.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Corbyn can be voted in as leader but it will leave the Labour party to be unelectable like they were when Michael Foot was leader.
    That's great, the only problem is that "Tories" became New Labour in terms of taxes.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Well, you are smarter than me then
    Not smarter just more aware of his foibles. If ALL your then front bench sound better than you at PMQs in holding the PM to account, and you cannot lead your own MPs including left wingers like Heidi Alexander then you can't be leader.

    Corbyn can be voted in as leader but it will leave the Labour party to be unelectable like they were when Michael Foot was leader. The party needs to move to the centre not launch to the left. Ed Miliband lost the election due to being left wing and not realising that the core vote isn't guaranteed.

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