Reply to: Who would swap UK status for another EU country?

[SueEllen]

Because I don't think you'd somehow like it anyway.

Especially if they were from UKIP as they wouldn't have turned up...

[AtW]

why not?

Because I don't think you'd somehow like it anyway.

[DodgyAgent]

So, if commissioners were selected from the ranks of elected MEPs then all would be ok then?

why not?

[AtW]

I was talking about the commissioners The institutions of the European Union - History Learning Site

So, if commissioners were selected from the ranks of elected MEPs then all would be ok then?

[CretinWatcher]

Already Teresa May is getting the misogynist treatment

If you mean sexist, I would describe Corbyn as an old man and be pretty miffed if Labour were in a similar position and imposed him as PM. And the old lady you'll be getting is Leadsom. Don't you understand a coup when you see one?

[DodgyAgent]

When UKIP got 14% of the vote in the UK, they got 1 seat in parliament.
Last time they got a similar proportion of the UK vote for the EU parliamentary elections, they got 5 seats in the EU parliament.

And now, you're about to get some old woman running the country for 4 years, that nobody voted for.
Moreover, the party in power has abandoned some key promises (like balancing the books) for the life of the parliament.
And any bills passed will go to an unelected house for ratification.
You're a mug who's been brainwashed by the upper classes who run this country that you live in democracy.
Good luck with that.

Already Teresa May is getting the misogynist treatment

[DodgyAgent]

Number of MEPs is based on population of member countries.

Big countries got veto on many subjects.

I was talking about the commissioners The institutions of the European Union - History Learning Site

[CretinWatcher]

The EU is undemocratic

When UKIP got 14% of the vote in the UK, they got 1 seat in parliament.
Last time they got a similar proportion of the UK vote for the EU parliamentary elections, they got 5 seats in the EU parliament.

And now, you're about to get some old woman running the country for 4 years, that nobody voted for.
Moreover, the party in power has abandoned some key promises (like balancing the books) for the life of the parliament.
And any bills passed will go to an unelected house for ratification.
You're a mug who's been brainwashed by the upper classes who run this country that you live in democracy.
Good luck with that.

[Mordac]

Dunno. I don't know any British Brit hating, Juncker loving federalists.

Somebody's not been paying attention then...

[AtW]

Which is hard to do when each country has equal influence no matter how many people it represents.

Number of MEPs is based on population of member countries.

Big countries got veto on many subjects.

[CretinWatcher]

so you think its sensible in international relations to do things by force?

.

Whoosh!

[Mordac]

Weird. Why do you think that warnings that it's all going to go horribly wrong, and posts that purport to show it's happening already are "disagreeing with the concept of democracy"?

With that kind of reasoning. You're really doing very little to disabuse Bremainers of the idea that Brexiters are rather stupid.

I fully acknowledged previously that there would be some (or quite a lot of) short term pain associated with Leave.
The UK will be made to do some time on the naughty step, partly as a result of the markets (that was always going to happen, they called it wrong, sod 'em), but mostly to deter any other nations from expressing similar frustrations at the ballot box.
My point stands, The EU is undemocratic, unaccountable and mostly, if not entirely, useless. We can have a whole debate about which bits of the EU are more or less undemocratic and useless if you like, but I think we're most over all that now.
Call "Brexiters" stupid if you like, that's your right, but you don't have the moral ground when it comes down to dishing out yellow cards to those who offer a different viewpoint. "For God's sake man, go"

[DodgyAgent]

So why exit now?

Because we can

[vetran]

Unless you're afraid of force, nothing to stop you walking out of any club you enter or belong to at any time whatsoever.

so you think its sensible in international relations to do things by force?

AssCretin obviously the board's Vladimir Putin. Watch out MF he will be round to confiscate your sledges.

[AtW]

only after the Lisbon treaty.

Before then there was no mechanism to do so.

So why exit now?