Brexit / Climate Change Poll

[VectraMan]

What leap of faith is that?
That a country that has a strong liberal democracy will find itself in deep economic and other trouble as opposed to being part of a superstate of which there is no historical precedent of any such group of nations pooling sovereignty except for the Soviet Union?

Exactly. It would require a leap of faith to believe any of that. I'll stick with what I know be true now thanks.

[FrontEnder]

The options are far too ambiguous. I'm sure there has been "man made climate change", for various reasons, increased CO2 being one of them, but global deforestation and land use changes probably being bigger ones (over the course of millennia).

But I don't think that we should bother doing much about it. I don't think the level of global warming is much to worry about, and I certainly don't think we should be changing the whole planet's economy to reduce greenhouse gasses. Antarctica won't melt and sea levels won't rise a great deal or at a rate that can't be managed in most areas locally.

So which option should I pick?

[Old Greg]

I'm 70% sure some degree of climate change is man-made, so no deceit there unless it is self-deceit.

But I'm intrigued to know the "right box". One of the Remain boxes, obviously, but could it be the "no man-made climate change?" and I'm doubly cretinous?

Anything is possible in these crazy days, my friend.

[OwlHoot]

I'm interested in the correlation, not a 100% match. And I did expect some pro-Leavers might either pretend to believe in man-made climate change or be too cretinous to tick the right box.

I'm 70% sure some degree of climate change is man-made, so no deceit there unless it is self-deceit.

But I'm intrigued to know the "right box". One of the Remain boxes, obviously, but could it be the "no man-made climate change?" and I'm doubly cretinous?

[DodgyAgent]

"Pro-Remain / Don't believe in man-made climate change"

Assuming we're being serious for a minute: I ticked that but I have a problem with the word "believe". I'm sceptical about man made climate change as I don't believe the arguments are convincing, and I'm also sceptical about the EU. But I'm more sceptical about the Brexit case, being mostly built on things that I find dubious or that I can easily verify aren't true by doing 5 minutes of research. Being sceptical is intelligent; believing is dumb. The Brexit case seems to require a leap of faith, as does believing in climate change, and that's not enough for me.

What leap of faith is that?
That a country that has a strong liberal democracy will find itself in deep economic and other trouble as opposed to being part of a superstate of which there is no historical precedent of any such group of nations pooling sovereignty except for the Soviet Union?

[Mordac]

It's very possible to be a Brexiter without supporting Farage and his ilk.
Your inability to see that says more about you than it does about me.

Put me in that camp - I think he's an opportunist c@ck. Still voting Leave though. Cheerio EUSSR...

[VectraMan]

"Pro-Remain / Don't believe in man-made climate change"

Assuming we're being serious for a minute: I ticked that but I have a problem with the word "believe". I'm sceptical about man made climate change as I don't believe the arguments are convincing, and I'm also sceptical about the EU. But I'm more sceptical about the Brexit case, being mostly built on things that I find dubious or that I can easily verify aren't true by doing 5 minutes of research. Being sceptical is intelligent; believing is dumb. The Brexit case seems to require a leap of faith, as does believing in climate change, and that's not enough for me.

[Old Greg]

Sorry to spoil your expected symmetry, but I voted "Pro-Leave / Believe in man-made climate change"

I'm interested in the correlation, not a 100% match. And I did expect some pro-Leavers might either pretend to believe in man-made climate change or be too cretinous to tick the right box.

[WTFH]

Yes very funny, UKIP is BNP and anyone who supports a Britain outside of the EU is basically a :nazi:

Yawn. FOAD.

Nope, big difference between "Anyone who supports a Britain outside of the EU" and "UKIP".


It's very possible to be a Brexiter without supporting Farage and his ilk.
Your inability to see that says more about you than it does about me.

[OwlHoot]

Self-explanatory poll

Sorry to spoil your expected symmetry, but I voted "Pro-Leave / Believe in man-made climate change"

[DimPrawn]

According to Farage, if we exit there will only be white clouds in the UK. Non-white clouds will be sent back to where they came from.
Night time will also be reduced for the same reason.
We will also no longer have wind blowing from the South as that brings foreign air into our country from Europe. This air will be stopped at the borders.


So, Brexit will solve any climate problems.

Yes very funny, UKIP is BNP and anyone who supports a Britain outside of the EU is basically a :nazi:

Yawn. FOAD.

[WTFH]

According to Farage, if we exit there will only be white clouds in the UK. Non-white clouds will be sent back to where they came from.
Night time will also be reduced for the same reason.
We will also no longer have wind blowing from the South as that brings foreign air into our country from Europe. This air will be stopped at the borders.


So, Brexit will solve any climate problems.

[Old Greg]

Self-explanatory poll