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[WTFH]

The beeb have even erased Scotland from the weather map. Hugh chip indeed you.

False (I'm getting tired of typing "codswallop". You may have read it somewhere, but as a resident of the UK I can assure you that the beeb weather maps for the UK still include Scotland.


If you are viewing a regional weather map, then it may only show that region, but the national one shows the whole nation.

[minestrone]

The rebate is exactly guaranteed. Lets all thank Mrs Thatch. That makes it £250m a week that we actually pay to the EU, and get a lot back in subsidies and other investments which the UK government would pick up anyway. So what we could spend on the NHS is closer to £160m. Which is still quite a lot; I don't know why they don't just say that and avoid the accusation that they're peddling nonsense.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-m...ee-55-million/



EU referendum campaigns 'misleading voters' - BBC News

Pretty critical of the other side too. At least the £4.3K per year is an estimate and people know that, not that it makes it okay, whereas the £350m is presented as a hard fact and is blatantly untrue.

The rebate gets 'renegotiated' ever 7 years and is not a formal agreement. They managed to get a chunk back from Blair and will no doubt erode it further as time goes by.

Out net contributions have went up from 4.6 billion to 9 ish billion in the last 7 years so there is a definite trend of us paying more.

[scooterscot]

Unfortunately at least one other poster on here believes that every citizen in the rest of the UK is to blame for everything that is wrong with Scotland.

Sounds like a top chap.

Almost sounds like you're describing a small population voting one way but getting another government they never choose lauding over them. Chee I wonder why that would cause resentment.

[scooterscot]

I call codswallop again.
1. The link you have provided is not to "the government website", but...
2. Their research is based on polls, not on the actual vote. Remember the recent general election, when the polls were saying everything apart from what factually happened?


oh, and there is a massive difference between "England" and the "UK excluding Scotland". Until you understand and accept that the UK is made up of 4 countries,

Since when was that true? On paper yes. But that's where it stops. The beeb have even erased Scotland from the weather map. Hugh chip indeed you.

Scotland has not felt part of the union for some years. Heck even many folk in northern England don't feel like part of the union.

Nothing worst than a apologist for the establishment.

[WTFH]

Ours are no better.

I don't disagree with you, but I also don't blame every citizen of the EU who is not British for everything that is wrong in Britain. Unfortunately at least one other poster on here believes that every citizen in the rest of the UK is to blame for everything that is wrong with Scotland.

[WTFH]

What I said was a statement of fact. You can read it yourself on the government website.

So Who Voted Yes and Who Voted No? - What Scotland Thinks

I call codswallop again.
1. The link you have provided is not to "the government website", but...

What Scotland Thinks is run by ScotCen Social Research. We are part of NatCen which is Britain’s leading independent social research agency. We are a not-for-profit and non-partisan organisation

2. Their research is based on polls, not on the actual vote. Remember the recent general election, when the polls were saying everything apart from what factually happened?


oh, and there is a massive difference between "England" and the "UK excluding Scotland". Until you understand and accept that the UK is made up of 4 countries, you really need to keep that triple-fried chip on your shoulder. It doesn't make you look at all intelligent, rather that you are emotionally and irrationally drawn in to a hatred of a group of people who you are not even aware of. You are tarring the Welsh, Northern Irish and English populations with a brush that is based on some concept you have in your head that "they" are all the same - probably looking like some Gerald Scarfe cartoon.

[Chuck]

Codswallop. Your leaders were so feckless that they couldn't bribe all the non-dom "Scots" to vote the way they wanted.
Your leaders promised there would not be another referendum for Scottish independence in their lifetime, but have changed their minds on that one too.
Your leaders squandered millions of pounds that could have been spent on making Scotland better - by reducing taxes, etc - all those things they could do in Holyrood, but claimed that the Welsh, Northern Irish and English were stopping them.
Your leaders are a bunch of fraudsters, and you have lapped up every single line they have fed you.

Ours are no better. One good thing about leaving the EU is that our politicians will no longer be able to blame Europe for their own failings.

The public will see through their lies and we may finally be able to hold them to account.

[FatLazyContractor]

I have just emerged FLC. What is going on today?

Not a lot lad. Planning on grabbing my agent's %age by putting him on a knife edge

[DodgyAgent]

Oh the irony.

Welcome DA. Good morning.

I have just emerged FLC. What is going on today?

[FatLazyContractor]

In that case every argument on both sides is a lie

Oh the irony.

Welcome DA. Good morning.

[DodgyAgent]

Everybody else will go short too, including the NHS, seeing as we don't send that much to the EU even not taking into account the amount the EU spends here. It's a lie. Everybody knows it's a lie. They should rename that thing The Lie Bus.

Not to mention they've promised to cut VAT on fuel and other commitments totalling £2bn per week.

But not to worry eh?

In that case every argument on both sides is a lie

[FatLazyContractor]

An interesting argument. But you do realise there is more native benefit collectors in England that there is in Scotland?

Yes, they are individuals in England. Not a country.

[scooterscot]

HTH BIDI

An interesting argument. But you do realise there is more native benefit collectors in England that there is in Scotland?

[FatLazyContractor]

What Scotland Thinks

HTH BIDI

[scooterscot]

Codswallop.

What I said was a statement of fact. You can read it yourself on the government website.

So Who Voted Yes and Who Voted No? - What Scotland Thinks