Reply to: Brexit doom, brexit doom, brexit doom!

[BrilloPad]

This Saturday in my local Town Center a "Leave" camp had set up, I got talking to the people running it (I said I'm already voting Leave) and asked "Out of all of the people that you've spoken to, would you say it's a 50/50 split or is there a majority one way or another?" He explained that the vast majority of people they've spoken to, including going into shops etc. and talking to owners, are in favour of an exit. Obviously people coming up to their stall will largely be supporting them, but what he said about going in shops etc. struck a chord.

Also, the idiots that will just vote "Stay" because of a supposed 'Status Quo' really need to wake up. One analogy I saw was, imagine you're on a big blue EU bus, the destination is "EU Superstate", leading to a future with no democracy, an EU Commission made up of unelected/unknown members, no accountability, no ability to write our own laws, a loss of sovereignty etc. We're currently on that bus, we need to get off it for us to (in the short term) maintain the 'Status Quo'.

Staying on it is a one way trip to political hell!

The bookies are still going with stay.

[PurpleGorilla]

Brexit doom, brexit doom, brexit doom!

One analogy I saw was, imagine you're on a big blue EU bus, the destination is "EU Superstate", leading to a future with no democracy, an EU Commission made up of unelected/unknown members, no accountability, no ability to write our own laws, a loss of sovereignty etc. We're currently on that bus, we need to get off it for us to (in the short term) maintain the 'Status Quo'.

Staying on it is a one way trip to political hell!

Don't forget the migrants...

[rl4engc]

This Saturday in my local Town Center a "Leave" camp had set up, I got talking to the people running it (I said I'm already voting Leave) and asked "Out of all of the people that you've spoken to, would you say it's a 50/50 split or is there a majority one way or another?" He explained that the vast majority of people they've spoken to, including going into shops etc. and talking to owners, are in favour of an exit. Obviously people coming up to their stall will largely be supporting them, but what he said about going in shops etc. struck a chord.

Also, the idiots that will just vote "Stay" because of a supposed 'Status Quo' really need to wake up. One analogy I saw was, imagine you're on a big blue EU bus, the destination is "EU Superstate", leading to a future with no democracy, an EU Commission made up of unelected/unknown members, no accountability, no ability to write our own laws, a loss of sovereignty etc. We're currently on that bus, we need to get off it for us to (in the short term) maintain the 'Status Quo'.

Staying on it is a one way trip to political hell!

[SunnyInHades]

Boris

.. EU/Hitler/Ken Livingston ambitions ..

[jamesbrown]

I think many of the Brexiters will vote against remain as a means of kicking back at the establishment especially at the Cameron's hysterical scaremongering.

Yeah, they definitely will, and I think this is reflected in the headline polling so far (given the establishment onslaught), but I doubt it will be in the required numbers. The average punter is just too conservative, unless there's a crisis situation. The polling has been much closer than I ever anticipated, not least because the Bremain arguments are so hysterical. Boris isn't the most trusted politician, but he's hammering Cameron and others in trust ratings on the EU, which is a strong indication of how badly the Bremain campaign has backfired (so far). But polls are frequently misleading. I think the economic arguments will scare a lot of people, ultimately. The Brexiters may reign some of this back by instilling a similar level of fear about the EU as a process (Five Presidents report etc.), rather than as a status quo.

Personally, I think Cameron should go after the vote. He's turned a serious decision for generations to come into a pantomime by reversing his previous Euroscepticism so emphatically. I chuckled at Isabel Oakeshott the other day when she referred to him as having been radicalised by his own campaign; exactly right

[DodgyAgent]

The majority of the voting public is small-c conservative and they will vote for the quo. The Bremainers are doing their best to scupper this advantage, but their screeching hysteria won't completely sink this underlying conservatism. What's perhaps more interesting is whether Hamface will face a vote of no confidence following Bremain. Even if he'd easily win it, this would mean almost certain departure before 2019. I don't foresee another referendum, but perhaps a Conservative Party Manifesto commitment (to leave) if Korbyn is still in place

I think many of the Brexiters will vote against remain as a means of kicking back at the establishment especially at Cameron's hysterical scaremongering.

[jamesbrown]

I asked the Intern, what he favoured. Remain he said, I asked why. Its the status quo.

he wasn't the only one who said that.

The majority of the voting public is small-c conservative and they will vote for the quo. The Bremainers are doing their best to scupper this advantage, but their screeching hysteria won't completely sink this underlying conservatism. What's perhaps more interesting is whether Hamface will face a vote of no confidence following Bremain. Even if he'd easily win it, this would mean almost certain departure before 2019. I don't foresee another referendum, but perhaps a Conservative Party Manifesto commitment (to leave) if Korbyn is still in place

[The_Equalizer]

Still a voter.

So are the 'oldies'.

[diseasex]

What the naive and misguided future generation wants, and what is in their best interests, may not be the same thing.

Still a voter.

[OwlHoot]

it's clear the future generation wants to remain. The oldies shouldn't f'#k up their futures by voting exit.

What the naive and misguided future generation wants, and what is in their best interests, may not be the same thing.

[vetran]

it's clear the future generation wants to remain. The oldies shouldn't f'#k up their futures by voting exit.

I asked the Intern, what he favoured. Remain he said, I asked why. Its the status quo.

he wasn't the only one who said that.

[unemployed]

it's clear the future generation wants to remain. The oldies shouldn't f'#k up their futures by voting exit.

The young are thick chunts if they think remaining is better for them.

personally i don`t give a flying fook what it does to our house prices economic future or anything else, it would just be nice to try something new.

[BrilloPad]

it's clear the future generation wants to remain. The oldies shouldn't f'#k up their futures by voting exit.

I asked my children aged 14 and they want to leave. Lower house prices.

The are happy to have more immigrants AFTER we have built more houses.

[Eirikur]

A discussion at the workplace amongst the contractors (20) showed a split 50/50 pretty much between youngsters (20+ something) who wanted to remain and oldies (40+ something) who were all for leaving

Suppose on the day it will all be down to wcba to go and vote -hopefully youthful inertia will prevail

it's clear the future generation wants to remain. The oldies shouldn't f'#k up their futures by voting exit.

[BrilloPad]

Fook the EU, take your holiday and your money to the USA, Caribbean or Indian Ocean, etc.

Put your holiday money into a BTL. 5 years time you can buy the Caribbean.....