Originally posted by PurpleGorilla
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Previously on "Brexit or not, it's time to dismantle the NHS"
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostIt will be interesting to see how the German system copes with an extra 1million migrants per annum.
In fact the few corrupt GPs won't be scamming the system by registering non-EU migrants for a large fee. Or haven't you heard of that scam?
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostIt will be interesting to see how the German system copes with an extra 1million migrants per annum.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostThere's no question that health policy will be dictated to us.
But we should look at systems like the French and German and copy them, as they work better than ours.
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Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
Never mind, after the brexit vote to remain in the EU there will be more EU rules across the 'state', including health policy. What is the german system? That is what we'll end up with.
But we should look at systems like the French and German and copy them, as they work better than ours.
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While the current NHS is obviously not fit for purpose, would it be worth risking going to the yankie version which even they accept is wrong with all that 'obamacare' stuff.
You only have to see how the UK veterinary system has become corrupted by a similar insurance led approach to the yank health system to see it isn't a better solution. Try getting a pet cared for without insurance and see how cheap it no longer is. A total scam to get everyone paying the insurance.
Never mind, after the brexit vote to remain in the EU there will be more EU rules across the 'state', including health policy. What is the german system? That is what we'll end up with.
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I agree with OP. OK its free but ultimately its crap.
Anyone who has been at the mercy of the NHS in the last few years will know this.
Yes its great that no-one has to pay for it but its still a below-par service.
Part of the problem is theres no accountability. Ever tried complaining? pointless. And of course in this country its put on a pedestal and how dare anyone criticise the good old NHS.
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1000 private companies taking a cut.
If it works for rail...
LMFAO
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostYou sound like my grandparents crowing about the NHS back in the 1960s
Laughing stock of the World more like, with the money poured into it, and the Stalinist control exerted over healthcare.
Also, why don't you look up Stalinism in an encyclopaedia?
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Originally posted by Unix View PostThe NHS is one of the great achievements of the UK, it's envied all over the world. ...
Laughing stock of the World more like, with the money poured into it, and the Stalinist control exerted over healthcare.
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The NHS is one of the great achievements of the UK, it's envied all over the world. The only reason it isn't copied is because super rich and power people in those countries don't want/need it and they make the decisions. They own the media and push articles like the one your new "opinion" is copied from.
HTH BIDI
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I wonder how different things would be if NI were indeed used to pay for the NHS... and not all the other hidden taxes.
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostYou're almost as bad as Xog with the senility
As I previously mentioned, that doesn't bother me anymore than you say it does you. But for most people in the UK it is a doomsday scenario, hence the advantage I pointed out which the Brexiters will have in bringing it up.
My only objection to TTIP, and a privatised NHS, is litigation that forces democratically elected governments to yield to large US corporations.
You're so used to combative discussions here you don't notice when someone is agreeing with you for once!
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostIf timid, undecided remainers could be persuaded, or rather simply reminded, that a TTIP deal between the EU and US would very likely demand the privatisation of the NHS to allow US competition for medical services then the Brexit campaign would walk it by a landslide!
I'm all in favour of privatising the NHS, with strictly limited medical liability and a set scale of compensation payments, to avoid the absurd amount of litigation and health insurance expense they suffer in the US.
But to most people in the UK it is almost literally a sacred institution, venerated as superstitious mediaevil peasants once did the holy Mother Church!
You're almost as bad as Xog with the senility
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostIf timid, undecided remainers could be persuaded, or rather simply reminded, that a TTIP deal between the EU and US would very likely demand the privatisation of the NHS to allow US competition for medical services then the Brexit campaign would walk it by a landslide!
I'm all in favour of privatising the NHS, with strictly limited medical liability and a set scale of compensation payments, to avoid the absurd amount of litigation and health insurance expense they suffer in the US.
But to most people in the UK it is almost literally a sacred institution, venerated as superstitious mediaevil peasants once did the holy Mother Church!
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