Reply to: Official 'Your message to Junior Doctors' thread

[Pondlife]

If you judge a health provider by its IT, stay well clear of the NHS

Good point, well made

[jaffab]

Here's a number for you. £15.76billion.

In 2003, Labour came up with the idea of refreshing the IT in the NHS. The 4 selected providers (in 5 regional sectors) were paid £15.76billion over 6 years to update all the NHS IT systems. They were tasked with deploying 9,200 systems over 154 Trusts (hospitals). In the end, they deployed 342 systems over 96 trusts. In 2013, the program official ended. At this date, of the 342 systems actually deployed, 78 had been replaced as the new systems were not fit for purpose. The only systems which really remain of the original set of systems were Radiology imaging (RIS), some pathology systems (iSOFT/WinPath) mental/community health systems (Rio), the NHS email service (nhs.mail) and a few service systems.

£15.76 is equal to £21.9billion in todays money. Today there are 55,000 Jnr Doctors working in the NHS. So that's £400,000 per Jnr Doctor, effectively wasted.

Of course, its not all bad news, us contractors working on the NPfIT program did rather well. As said by Blackadder...

"Basically, it's a right old mess. Toffs at the top, plebs at the bottom, and me in the middle making a fat pile of cash out of both of them"

[sasguru]

hmmmm.

Have a look at the HCA self pay site. It's the one linked to from the ad on their main page.

Linky

That's the sort of attention to detail you want from an urgent healthcare provider.

If you judge a health provider by its IT, stay well clear of the NHS

[Mordac]

That is an Urgent Care Centre, not an ED / A&E. Won't help for life or limb threatening conditions.

Which may or may not come into your list of requirements...

[FatLazyContractor]

Good to know - have saved that info.
I can almost be totally private now.

Emergency care is provided for a variety of conditions, including acute medical conditions such as respiratory and chest complaints; traumatic injuries; ear, nose and throat conditions; fractures, sprains and strains; stomach, bowel and bladder problems; wounds, burns, cuts and grazes and general aches and pains.

No where does it mention brain injuries. Department that you most certainly need

[Pondlife]

hmmmm.

Have a look at the HCA self pay site. It's the one linked to from the ad on their main page.

Linky

That's the sort of attention to detail you want from an urgent healthcare provider.

[Mordac]

100 quid for a doctors consultation, affordable though a bit steep - going rate at BUPA or Medicentre is 75.
Probably end up with a bill for 500-1000 in a genuine emergency, say a broken bone.

And sadly not likely to be tax deductible...

[Old Greg]

This one does

Possibly costs an arm and a leg

That is an Urgent Care Centre, not an ED / A&E. Won't help for life or limb threatening conditions.

[sasguru]

There is, but if you have to ask, you almost certainly can't afford it...

100 quid for a doctors consultation, affordable though a bit steep - going rate at BUPA or Medicentre is 75.
Probably end up with a bill for 500-1000 in a genuine emergency, say a broken bone.

[sasguru]

This one does

Possibly costs an arm and a leg

Good to know - have saved that info.
I can almost be totally private now.

[Mordac]

There's private A&E?

There is, but if you have to ask, you almost certainly can't afford it...

[FatLazyContractor]

There's private A&E?

This one does

Possibly costs an arm and a leg

[Mordac]

One does so hope that Jeremy Hunt will never require treatment in A&E.

Coz he'll come out dead if he does.

Fatal things these ingrowing toenails.

He'll go private... Just saying like....

[The_Equalizer]

£22,636

I'm a bit mystified by the pay thing. Now I won't knock how hard some work and, obviously, they have to be relatively bright, but with overtime they can do rather well. A girlfriend of old was seeing £50-60K with overtime around 2006. She was a SHO with five years under her belt. The real winners were weekends where she was on call, but sometimes got a full night's sleep. Everyone goes on about the training, hours etc. but take a look what an architect makes. In fact take a look what anyone that's PAYE makes at, say, 35. A consultant in anything is minimum £75K.

[barrydidit]

Whatever the rights and wrongs, it's annoying to see the socialist w^nkers appear to be out on the picket lines in da Hudd



This is more like it. She's probably got a more sensible grasp on the situation than that bell end with his free newspapers.