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Originally posted by AtW View PostWould it be ok if the pig was alive?
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostAs long as a chap can knob a dead pig with panache, he gets my vote.
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostWhat a prim, plebby attitude.
William Pitt the Younger was the best and most inventive sovereign money manager this country ever had, and deserves much of the credit for defeating Napoleon by his financial astuteness, not to mention putting the East India company on a sound basis that paved the way for making India a successful part of the British Empire.
But his personal finances, for one reason or another, were completely chaotic, and he was usually in serious debt. I suspect some of this mismanagement was a cover for paying a small army of below-stairs informers to keep him posted on other MPs and influential people. But it was probably mainly because he was so frantically busy with state affairs that he could spare no time for his own. After his untimely death, it took 20 years to sort out his finances!
Also, Julius Caesar, Winston Churchill, and many of the best leaders (or the most successful anyway) had to contend with chronic personal debt and financial mismanagement for much of their lives. Would you rather someone like them running the country, or some non-entity with personal finances in apple pie order.
(Actually, I think on balance I'd prefer the latter, unless we were living in very "interesting" times! )
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Originally posted by tomtomagain View PostWell if that's the criteria for success then Labour should look for a minimum-wage slave for their next leader.
People who want to get loaded should stay out of Parliament and Govt in general.
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Originally posted by tomtomagain View PostNo. Not millions of pounds.
But a man who has been employed as a higher rate tax payer for 40 years should have something.
It's not very prudent to have no savings at all.
Of course he could well have used his maximum ISA allowance each year. That doesn't show on a tax return.
And he could have given it to his partner to invest on his behalf.
Having zero? Seriously? This is the person you want to run the economy? I'd rather have someone in charge who knew about money.
William Pitt the Younger was the best and most inventive sovereign money manager this country ever had, and deserves much of the credit for defeating Napoleon by his financial astuteness, not to mention putting the East India company on a sound basis that paved the way for making India a successful part of the British Empire.
But his personal finances, for one reason or another, were completely chaotic, and he was usually in serious debt. I suspect some of this mismanagement was a cover for paying a small army of below-stairs informers to keep him posted on other MPs and influential people. But it was probably mainly because he was so frantically busy with state affairs that he could spare no time for his own. After his untimely death, it took 20 years to sort out his finances!
Also, Julius Caesar, Winston Churchill, and many of the best leaders (or the most successful anyway) had to contend with chronic personal debt and financial mismanagement for much of their lives. Would you rather someone like them running the country, or some non-entity with personal finances in apple pie order.
(Actually, I think on balance I'd prefer the latter, unless we were living in very "interesting" times! )
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Originally posted by AtW View PostHe was MP since 1983, the fact that he does not earn much is a + to his reputation not a -.
Well if that's the criteria for success then Labour should look for a minimum-wage slave for their next leader.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostLiving in London???
It's his choice anyway, I am certain he got savings, perhaps not £100k, but rather £15-20k, but how many people in UK got liquid savings (not pension) over £100k???
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostFFS AtW, you're being biased now.
Can you not see that Corbyn is a talentless, lazy, twat worse than any apparatichik of the Soviet system?
And if you think the current admin is bad, Corbyn will make you leave the country.
Read some 70s history of Britain FFS and reflect that the mess then was when the Labour party leadership actually had some talent.
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Originally posted by AtW View PostLiving in London???
It's his choice anyway, I am certain he got savings, perhaps not £100k, but rather £15-20k, but how many people in UK got liquid savings (not pension) over £100k???
Can you not see that Corbyn is a talentless, lazy, twat worse than any apparatichik of the Soviet system?
And if you think the current admin is bad, Corbyn will make you leave the country.
Read some 70s history of Britain FFS and reflect that the mess then was when the Labour party leadership actually had some talent.
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Originally posted by vetran View PostHigher rate since 1983 he should be minted if he had any sense. I have plenty of savings despite being 20+ years younger and many years less than him at higher rate.
How many savings does an average higher rate person have would be a better question.
It's his choice anyway, I am certain he got savings, perhaps not £100k, but rather £15-20k, but how many people in UK got liquid savings (not pension) over £100k???
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