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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Firstly, he's a public servant we pay for.
    Not the way he sees it.

    I understand at Eton/Charterhouse rugby matches, the Etonians chant "We are going to employ you one day". He believes he is born to rule.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Thought Gidiot did that? Either way they are both joined at the hip, hopefully both will go down.
    I'm sure they were in it together.
    Just be glad you aren't "trapped in wealth", it's no easy ride

    David Cameron’s fate is to be caught in the wealth trap

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Fourthly, he has promoted the phrase "We are all in it together".
    Thought Gidiot did that? Either way they are both joined at the hip, hopefully both will go down.

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  • MrMarkyMark
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    Originally posted by Forgotmylogin View Post
    I doubt there's any way to please some people. No matter how much information is released - full access to all bank details for all years for his whole family, some would still accuse him of hiding something.

    Why don't you put up or shut up? Publicly accuse him of tax evasion and let him sue you for libel.

    No, much easier to make snarky comments, and throw in a large portion of ignorance to whit.
    Firstly, he's a public servant we pay for.

    Secondly, he has been worming around, like a fish on a hook so far, anything to avoid telling the truth.

    Thirdly, he has been commenting about others tax affairs, cutting services and raising taxes left, right and centre.

    Fourthly, he has promoted the phrase "We are all in it together".

    Finally, a question for you, have you ever been under any tax investigation?
    It's not an easy "ride" you know
    Last edited by MrMarkyMark; 11 April 2016, 00:16.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Forgotmylogin View Post
    I doubt there's any way to please some people. No matter how much information is released - full access to all bank details for all years for his whole family, some would still accuse him of hiding something.

    Why don't you put up or shut up? Publicly accuse him of tax evasion and let him sue you for libel.

    No, much easier to make snarky comments, and throw in a large portion of ignorance to whit.
    Since there are well-known wealthy business men who have used such methods of avoidance successfully until some of them have got divorced, it would be a surprise if well-known wealthy politicians didn't well.

    One of the issues with the politicians' tax avoidance is that it's all right for them to persecute and slag off pop stars, comedians, actors, footballers, IT contractors etc who all earned their money themselves instead of inheriting it and used loopholes to avoid tax.

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  • SueEllen
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    Yes you could.

    I'm surprised there isn't a film or TV series about this already.

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  • AtW
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    They are all in it together... at the same time those feckers increase taxes on us

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  • jamesbrown
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    You couldn't make it up:

    HMRC chief was partner at law firm that acted for Cameron offshore fund | Politics | The Guardian

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Forgotmylogin View Post
    some would still accuse him of hiding something.
    At the moment accusations look pretty credible and denials ain't.

    Originally posted by Forgotmylogin View Post
    Why don't you put up or shut up? Publicly accuse him of tax evasion and let him sue you for libel.

    No, much easier to make snarky comments, and throw in a large portion of ignorance to whit.
    He is PM of a country with massive budget deficit, he (and chancellor) make up a lot from dealing with aggressive tax avoidance, yet it turns out his dad used offshore and PM benefited from it - he gives some summaries from tax returns which conveniently hide data about dividends he received during years before he sold, so we don't know for sure if his sale price of £30k (him and his wife) is true market price at the time.

    Personally I find it hard to believe that his shares would be worth so little in what appears to be multi-million offshore fund, did his father hate him or what? £30k worth of shares implies annual dividend of £1500 for 5% yield, or £3000 for 10% yield - are you seriously saying that he was only getting £3k dividend owning those shares??? If that was the case he'd publish and everybody would relax - £3k is nothing, but I reckon the figure is at least 10 times higher.
    Last edited by AtW; 10 April 2016, 21:19.

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  • Forgotmylogin
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    I doubt there's any way to please some people. No matter how much information is released - full access to all bank details for all years for his whole family, some would still accuse him of hiding something.

    Why don't you put up or shut up? Publicly accuse him of tax evasion and let him sue you for libel.

    No, much easier to make snarky comments, and throw in a large portion of ignorance to whit.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    But the Great Leader isn't...

    Sorry I should have put "clean" in quotes as I mean successfully hidden. I wonder what their wives tax returns look like....

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    I actually expect the front bench to be clean and the only dirty person has already resigned citing something else.
    But the Great Leader isn't...

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  • SueEllen
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    I actually expect the front bench to be clean and the only dirty person has already resigned citing something else.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Pre-2010 is over 6 years ago so they can say they don't have the records.
    But he is releasing summaries (not even details) of tax returns - those are kept by HMRC, I can access mine I think as far back as 2002!

    Notice how he gave summaries only, that's to hide amount of dividends he was receiving, even the total amount was given away I think!

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Pre-2010 is over 6 years ago so they can say they don't have the records.
    True, but I doubt that will wash TBH. The 2009/10 record keeping requirement for self-employed income is 31 Jan 2016, but much shorter in the absence of self-employed income (22 mo). However, he'd be taking a risk to deny that they were available, or the raw data. Also, there will be specific questions about offshore income ("do you deny this?" Etc.). He's in a tough spot if there's anything dodgy. Pretty silly though, IMO; where does it end? Nothing is going to satisfy Labour and the Brexit press.

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