Reply to: Stephen Crabb announces there will be no further cuts to welfare

[DodgyAgent]

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....

[DodgyAgent]

You're just spouting rhetoric without logic. Less unemployed means less on benefits. Caps on welfare means less benefits. Local caps on how much housing benefit can be claimed means less benefits.

Who is all this extra money going to? The welfare state has been in the hands of people who aren't 'wailing leftie liberals' for about 6 years now.

That may be the logic but the reality is that welfare has continued to rise in line with growth

[VectraMan]

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....

Yes, but Jenny Agutter should get to stay with us.

[BrilloPad]

These "silly" science fiction films are not looking so silly any more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....

[d000hg]

They remain pretty constant thanks to too many wailing leftie liberals wanting to pay people to do nothing in order to make themselves seem virtuous

You're just spouting rhetoric without logic. Less unemployed means less on benefits. Caps on welfare means less benefits. Local caps on how much housing benefit can be claimed means less benefits.

Who is all this extra money going to? The welfare state has been in the hands of people who aren't 'wailing leftie liberals' for about 6 years now.

[VectraMan]

You've got to give them some praise for the way they've rallied round to make IDS look like a complete idiot.

Everything in this budget will be scrapped in a few months anyway. Brexit vote gives them all the justification they need for really savage spending cuts.

[DodgyAgent]

Don't be silly, welfare costs are dropping like a stone as the Tories get everyone into well-paid, rewarding, aspirational jobs.

In seriousness if unemployment is falling surely welfare costs must be dropping, as a share of GDP if not in absolute terms? Especially with welfare caps and other "stop taking the piss" measures.

They remain pretty constant thanks to too many wailing leftie liberals wanting to pay people to do nothing in order to make themselves seem virtuous

[DodgyAgent]

Presumably you would like anyone on welfare to be euthanized?

These "silly" science fiction films are not looking so silly any more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)

[Chuck]

but the rest is the usual bolloxs

I'd disagree. That is a pretty good CV for an MP. At least he's done some work that is not only real-world, but actually worthy (apart form the "marketing consultant" bit).

He's clearly worked very hard to get where he is. I'd never heard of him before, but I suspect he may be one to keep an eye on.

[Troll]

As a student, Crabb spent his summers working on building sites in different locations in England and Wales. For one job at a site on Newport Docks he reportedly lived in a tent during the week, returning to Pembrokeshire at weekends

Have to have some respect for that

but the rest is the usual bolloxs

After his graduation, Crabb studied French through the Open University and gained an MBA at the London Business School.
He began his career in the youth and charity sector with the National Council for Voluntary Youth Services while working part-time as a youth worker in inner city south London. From 1995 to 1996, Crabb was a Christian Action Research and Education parliamentary intern.

In 1998, Crabb started work at the London Chamber of Commerce.[9] In the same year he was elected as the chairman of the Southwark North and Bermondsey Conservative Association, which position he held for two years. He was also an election monitor in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1998.In 2002 he became a marketing consultant

[d000hg]

Don't be silly, welfare costs are dropping like a stone as the Tories get everyone into well-paid, rewarding, aspirational jobs.

In seriousness if unemployment is falling surely welfare costs must be dropping, as a share of GDP if not in absolute terms? Especially with welfare caps and other "stop taking the piss" measures.

[BrilloPad]

Presumably the money to support the increasing welfare costs will come from one of your trees?

Presumably you would like anyone on welfare to be euthanized?

[DodgyAgent]

Government announces there are no plans for further cuts to welfare

Stephen Crabb, the new Welfare and Pensions Secretary, has suggested there will be no more welfare savings in this Parliament.

He announced the government will not be going ahead with changes to PIP and that there will be no further plans to make welfare savings in this parliament.

“We will not be going ahead with the changes to PIP that had been put forward,” he said

“I am absolutely clear that a compassionate and fair welfare system should not just be about numbers.

“Behind every statistic is a human being and perhaps sometimes in government we forget that.

Source: Stephen Crabb announces there will be no further cuts to welfare - after David Cameron praises George Osborne and Iain Duncan Smith - Telegraph

So, IDS took one for the team and protected countless people from savage Tory Scum (tm) cuts. What will they be cutting now?



Health, Welfare and Edukation are ring fenced, so is the Defense. We can also be pretty certain that Debt Interest won't be cut either

My calculation is that they'll need to cut 84 bln out of 181 bln remaining to get proficit IF the economy does not tank (which it will thanks to attack on investors who'd invest their money elsewhere).

Presumably the money to support the increasing welfare costs will come from one of your trees?

[BrilloPad]

The bizarre thing is that they're insisting they'll get MPs to vote on the Budget tomorrow, despite the fact that this affair has blown a £4.4 billion hole in the damn thing and Gideon hasn't got the faintest idea what to fill it with

"Yeah, this finance bill is obviously now worthless and we can't tell you what we're actually going to do because we don't know, but just vote it through so we can pretend we're on top of things, there's a good chap."

FFS

There is a 84bn hole that needs filling.

Things are pretty screwed. But not nearly as screwed as they were under Labour.

[SimonMac]

Government announces there are no plans for further cuts to welfare

Stephen Crabb, the new Welfare and Pensions Secretary, has suggested there will be no more welfare savings in this Parliament.

He announced the government will not be going ahead with changes to PIP and that there will be no further plans to make welfare savings in this parliament.

“We will not be going ahead with the changes to PIP that had been put forward,” he said

“I am absolutely clear that a compassionate and fair welfare system should not just be about numbers.

“Behind every statistic is a human being and perhaps sometimes in government we forget that.

Source: Stephen Crabb announces there will be no further cuts to welfare - after David Cameron praises George Osborne and Iain Duncan Smith - Telegraph

So, IDS took one for the team and protected countless people from savage Tory Scum (tm) cuts. What will they be cutting now?



Health, Welfare and Edukation are ring fenced, so is the Defense. We can also be pretty certain that Debt Interest won't be cut either

My calculation is that they'll need to cut 84 bln out of 181 bln remaining to get proficit IF the economy does not tank (which it will thanks to attack on investors who'd invest their money elsewhere).

That image is at least two years out of date though