Reply to: Paxman tax to be killed in Budget

[SueEllen]

As I was saying, the articles are put there by the Government.....

Unless someone is inferring that they have more of a brain than they're letting on.

Journalist just happens to be in the pub frequented by civil service types.

S/he over hears them talking about the budget. As they aren't suppose to be talking shop in a public place they start making things up.

Journalist thinks s/he has a story so writes an article on what s/he has over heard.

[flamel]

Sorry, go back and read the article. The person that wrote the article was absolutely clueless.

As I was saying, the articles are put there by the Government.....

Unless someone is inferring that they have more of a brain than they're letting on.

[SueEllen]

Sorry, go back and read the article. The person that wrote the article was absolutely clueless.

The people who write articles have to spin them out of the small bit of information they get from a government "source" e.g. someone they met out drinking, the twitter feed they follow, so they are always a load of rubbish.

[NigelJK]

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[mudskipper]

...but these articles are placed there by the Government through their PR agencies - be realistic, there's no way that a Daily Mail journo knows anything about tax, companies .... or anything come to that.

Except house prices.

[flamel]

The answer lies in the article with the completely wrong explanation that income tax is being avoided as you only have to pay 20% corporation tax. The Mail seems to employ children to write their articles. In the comments the teenagers seem to think its a way to avoid national insurance. What the adults know is the real reason, it avoids adding to the massive unsustainable pension liabilities that all public sector workers are entitled too.

...but these articles are placed there by the Government through their PR agencies - be realistic, there's no way that a Daily Mail journo knows anything about tax, companies .... or anything come to that.

[bobspud]

The government are not following the real money.
They should forget the minnows, and go after the sharks.

Get rid of agencies and have a single government recruitment agency.
They really could not be any worse than the existing ones.

Gov-Jobs then charges a flat rate that goes back into the public purse, credited against corporation tax.

Win win for government and contractors

Write to your MP now...

and then the EU would complain that they we are being uncompetitive and shutting out european vendors from the money. Which is why Capita competed and won a single supplier solution for government contracts they operate on fixed margins and an open book. They had a little problem with the contract wordings at first but that was sorted out and as far as I understand they are back to being a contractor friendly way to work directly with the government while getting paid on time.

However like all these we will do this once and properly to save time and cost: I worked through other contracts with other suppliers that had nothing to do with Capita so as with all these you will use X for Y edicts, there is always an entire department thats says yeah what-ever and does the total opposite...

We do need to sort out the NHS agency abuse and Capita's model would be a good start for that as its not fair that Nurses are getting vilified for working as agency staff when its the agencies stealing all the cash. Its a mostly different game in the IT sector though.

[Sympatico]

Forget 'Paxman' - Nationalise Employment Agencies

The government are not following the real money.
They should forget the minnows, and go after the sharks.

Get rid of agencies and have a single government recruitment agency.
They really could not be any worse than the existing ones.

Gov-Jobs then charges a flat rate that goes back into the public purse, credited against corporation tax.

Win win for government and contractors

Write to your MP now...

[bobspud]

I explained what the suggested fix over IR35 is going to mean to one of my ex civil service colleagues over a beer this evening. Their response was: yeah I'm sure that's what they want, but their isn't anyone in the department that could competently make the decision. Any attempt would end up with a highly paid legal representative driving a bus over them.

They have already overruled the maximum payoff edict that was put out to stop long serving members of staff getting more than 95k in payouts. That too was noted to be a fail just waiting for the right legal team and not worth the court costs to lose so there is some common sense hidden in this mess

[SueEllen]

a) Increase the rates/salaries until they do get the people.

b) Quietly forget about the whole thing and carry on as before.

c) Put the whole lot out to tender and allow IBM, WIPRO, Infosys, Accenture to bid for a mere 2 - 3 times the current running cost.

A mix of B and C with randomly trying A to prove no one who can do the job wants it.

Some government departments do this already but they use smaller consultancies.

[tomtomagain]

They can't get permanent staff or people who want fixed term contracts so what are they going to do?

a) Increase the rates/salaries until they do get the people.

b) Quietly forget about the whole thing and carry on as before.

c) Put the whole lot out to tender and allow IBM, WIPRO, Infosys, Accenture to bid for a mere 2 - 3 times the current running cost.

[SueEllen]

it was on the front page of the telegraph yesterday. PSC loop hole to be closed for public sector contractors.
Sunday Herald in Scotland has been running a campaign on the same issue --Student Loans being run by a cabal of highly paid contractors being the focus of their ire

They can't get permanent staff or people who want fixed term contracts so what are they going to do?

[ChadGates]

Agreed. I will not believe it until I read it in the telegraph.

it was on the front page of the telegraph yesterday. PSC loop hole to be closed for public sector contractors.
Sunday Herald in Scotland has been running a campaign on the same issue --Student Loans being run by a cabal of highly paid contractors being the focus of their ire

[AtW]

There seems to be some sort of problem with the photograph of Gideon in that article.

He doesn't seem to have "Twat" tattooed in big letters on his forehead.

Is this some form of censorship?

[Dactylion]

AtW's education continues.

Now you need Allo Allo.

Listen very carefully - I will say this only once.....

I see a flaw in your plan.